President Obama took the White House Press Pool with him today to Dover Air Force Base for a photo-op with slain troops as their plane arrived. Only one of the fifteen families allowed the president to use the occasion for his photo-op.
Liz Cheney discussed President Obama’s photo-op today at Dover Air Force Base with John Gibson.
Here’s the partial transcript:
There’s lying. There’s a pattern here… This White House needs to understand… every single day you ask them to serve without the resources they ask for without the reinforcements they need they are in more danger. I believe there is dithering going on and there is waffling…
(On the president’s photo-op at Dover) But I think that what President Bush used to do is do it without the cameras. And I don’t understand sort of showing up with the White House Press Pool with photographers and asking family members if you can take pictures. That’s really hard for me to get my head around. I think its an honorable and important thing for us to pay tribute. There’s no greater sacrifice people make to the nation. It was a surpsising way for the president to choose to do this. I’d like to add the most important way for the president to pay tribute to those who sacrifice is to back them up.
UPDATE: Kristinn has more on Cheney’s interview.
October 29th, 2009 | 7:22 pm | #1
Another self-aggrandizing Obama decision blows up in his face. The reason we didn’t Bush saluting the coffins is because he refused to exploit the dead. I’m sure it never even occurred to Bush to have himself filmed saluting coffins.
Our president thinks we’re all idiots he can lead around by the nose. He also has no respect whatsoever for anybody.
October 29th, 2009 | 7:34 pm | #2
Barack Hubris Obama
October 29th, 2009 | 7:45 pm | #3
Bush went to Dover plenty of times – without the press corps. But then, Bush understands dignity.
And, it’s my understanding that Bush wrote (or had written and then he edited) a letter of condolence to the family of every soldier killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. (And the signature on each letter was by Bush’s hand – not a machine.)
I haven’t heard what obama’s practice is.
October 29th, 2009 | 7:46 pm | #4
I wonder how long he practiced his salute.
October 29th, 2009 | 7:49 pm | #5
ar05075
Obama had TOTUS there telling what to do every second.
October 29th, 2009 | 7:51 pm | #6
Obama has no soul.
He is a very dark individual, indeed.
Why on earth people still support this monster is beyond imagination.
October 29th, 2009 | 8:03 pm | #7
Only a scumbag would prostitute this country’s fallen warriors for aggrandizement.
October 29th, 2009 | 8:20 pm | #8
This is simply another example of Obama building his case for retreat in Afghanistan. There’s a reason why he never uses the word “victory”; because it was never one of his options in Afghanistan. He’s an anti-war President. He wants to be able to say that he stopped two wars.
Mark my words, he’s eyeing the exit in Afghanistan.
October 29th, 2009 | 8:24 pm | #9
No class at all. I wonder how it must feel to HAVE to salute this guy instead of giving him a smack.
October 29th, 2009 | 8:29 pm | #10
What is SCOTUS again? I know TOTUS but am having a brain cramp over SCOTUS. Anyone?
October 29th, 2009 | 8:34 pm | #11
Mark my words, he’s eyeing the exit in Afghanistan.
Amy Proctor
October 29th, 2009 | 8:20 pm | #8
Agreed. But I think Obama will allow these wars to further deteriorate first.
Kind of like the healthcare system–bog it down with mandates, let the economy spiral downward, and then say, “Look, we had to step in and save this thing.” Exactly, that is why you hastened its demise.
And when the war is underfunded, the troops demoralized, and our enemies bolstered by King Hussein, he will proclaim, “Things would have been much worse if we had stayed.”
Screwing things up is the modus operandi of Hussein’s administration. It works to his advantage.
Weak people are easier to control.
October 29th, 2009 | 8:35 pm | #12
Supreme Court of the United States
October 29th, 2009 | 8:37 pm | #13
Amy, SCOTUS (supreme ct of us) no longer exists. It has given up its authority it had to sponsor Obummer.
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October 29th, 2009 | 8:41 pm | #14
The anti-American in the Oval Office is unfit to shine the shoes of the newest military recruit.
How dare he use our fallen heroes for a photo-op.
October 29th, 2009 | 8:43 pm | #15
Supreme Court
They had a piece about this on MSNBC. O’Donnel kept pushing this was a “Lincoln Moment”. It never ceases to amaze me O’Donnel can at this stuff with a straight face.
October 29th, 2009 | 8:48 pm | #16
My son is A Soldier, State Side. He was told he was going to Afghanistan in February. 2010. I do not want my beloved son to be “Canon Fodder” for Obamas Army! Oba is Getting the Troops out of the Country, so he can do a Government Take-Over Shift to the Left. Obama is Dellusional, Opportunist, who uses People for his Own Political Gain! Obama is only interested in Obama. He’s an Ego Maniac, and doesn’t even see it!
October 29th, 2009 | 8:52 pm | #17
I am Related to Abraham Lincoln, not The President! 4Obama 2Compare himself to Our Sixteenth President is Absurd.
October 29th, 2009 | 8:55 pm | #18
Obama is not genuine about his support for the US troops. he is a liar.
October 29th, 2009 | 9:03 pm | #19
He’s a virus.
October 29th, 2009 | 9:15 pm | #20
As some one who served in the Navy many years ago, this was the most tasteless act of self centered crap I have ever seen. I am ready to blow a gasket and am holding myself back from saying what I feel about this aboration of self absorbed ignorance by this so called human because I am on a public blog. My heart goes out to all the family’s who have lost their loved ones trying to serve this great nation, I have seen many fall in battle. It’s unfortunate that they have given their lives so this so called POTUS and his liberal marxists can do what they are to this great nation. This self centered turd is the sorriest excuse that has ever come to be.
October 29th, 2009 | 9:26 pm | #21
I have kids in the military. There’s no way in he!! I would have let that arrogant piece of nothing anywhere near my child’s casket, or my family in their time of grief. You want a photo op, pal? How about the one when you back the moving van up to the White House in about three years?
October 29th, 2009 | 9:48 pm | #22
It is a disgrace and a real ugly form of exploitation.
Obama and the Democrats have been slowly spinning an undermining effort for supporting this Military Operation in Afghanistan, Obama once deemed essential.
It is all an intentional PR campaign to highlight the negative, just like the World Series Veteran effort, to show the pain of War, and prepare the Nation for the limited effort.
It’s all a political scam, just like the Clinton facade.
And the restricted efforts will only cause more deaths in the long run.
Obama is an ugly liar, this takes the cake.
October 29th, 2009 | 11:23 pm | #23
Ah, yes, thanks Just Saying. SCOTUS. Got it.
Laude Pundit, I agree with you. I think Obama is waiting for additional deterioration to the point where it looks like too much work to try to correct it. GEN Petraeus said recently that there is still time to turn this around, but not a lot of time. Obama is waiting for that window to close.
It’s evil to allow soldiers to die like this. Denying them reinforcements like Bill Clinton did in Somalia only has one end: defeat.
And that kind of devastating defeat produces more Osama bin Ladens.
October 29th, 2009 | 11:33 pm | #24
Back in the day, you called for “reinforcements,” not a “surge.” Old infantry vets know Afghanistan has all the makings of a meat grinder. And we’re not even fighting a mechanized army. I’ve seen photos of Marines squatting in bunkers, and videos showing tentative troop movements and, just recently, a commander pulling back, saying, “. . . It’s too dangerous out there.” Surely, our politically tendentious media packages and skews their reportage; but our guys are being left out to dry in Afghanistan’s open, vast territory—moving on the low ground, bunched in tight, target-easy packs, looking for a wily, elusive, and competent enemy.
The larger problem, unfortunately, is the insidious “enemy” inside the gates of the White House, our chief military “commander,” whose inaction, indecision, temporizing border on criminal. It should be axiomatic by now: Unless tactical units in Afghanistan get enhanced means to seek, find, and kill this fluid enemy in numbers, our troops, brave as they are, will continue to be in over their heads. Afghanistan is just too large a battleground for so relatively few on so fitful a military mission.
SSranger
NYC
October 29th, 2009 | 11:38 pm | #25
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October 30th, 2009 | 4:58 am | #26
Man, I wish Liz Cheney would run for something, somewhere where I could vote for her. I would consider it a privledge!
October 30th, 2009 | 5:13 am | #27
Another sickening display by President 44.Moreover, the media whores champion this cad is staggering.
October 30th, 2009 | 6:08 am | #28
Empiricism or dithering?
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/10/024829.php
October 30th, 2009 | 6:49 am | #29
You wanna know something really scary?
Obama should listen to the Maoists in his administration:
THE REVERSE MAO
October 30th, 2009 | 10:20 am | #30
All Obama, all the time.
What a narcissistic asshat. Red Badge ofCourage comes to mind. The only difference is that this Soros sock puppet will never, ever, pluck up the courage to do the right thing. After all, America is evil and the white folks have stolen all the riches from the non-whites… right?
I bet he smiles every time some white solder gets killed.
October 30th, 2009 | 10:34 am | #31
You guys don’t represent the majority or even close to a decent sized minority, right?
Yes, it was a photo op to show that men and women in the armed forces have died. Not to sweep them under the rug like the last administration.
October 30th, 2009 | 10:40 am | #32
Kar,
I’m glad you brought up the minority/majority issue.
How do you feel about the fact that of all of the families of the fallen soldiers there, eighteen families in all, only ONE family gave him permission to photograph the remains?
October 30th, 2009 | 11:59 am | #33
“Another self-aggrandizing Obama decision blows up in his face. The reason we didn’t Bush saluting the coffins is because he refused to exploit the dead. I’m sure it never even occurred to Bush to have himself filmed saluting coffins.”
Funny none of the Republicans complained when Regan did it. You know the great leader…
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c14159-28a.jpg
Hypocrites…
October 30th, 2009 | 12:02 pm | #34
President Ronald Reagan honored the fallen by greeting them at an air base and being photographed doing it. He also made a speech that he was doing this on the radio.
Reagan honored the fallen, with media present, by being there and SHOWING IT, just as Clinton did and just as George H.W. Bush did.
firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/attention-bush-apologists-reagan-greeted-fallen-americans-at-an-air-force-base-idiots/
October 30th, 2009 | 12:02 pm | #35
Kar, Let me tell you from experience. The total anguish that one feels when they see their loved one being carried off a plane in a flagged draped coffin, is indescribable. A time in which, I hope you never have to endure. The families and the fallen soldiers should be honored and respected. This has nothing to do with “sweeping anything under the rug”. This has to do with respect, something I’m afraid this president doesn’t have. I’m sure he wants the press to respect his privacy during his family time. He should respect other Americans in their private time as well. He could’ve simply shown up to show his support/respects, but he brought camera’s. If I had any respect for the man before this, I certainly don’t now.
October 30th, 2009 | 12:04 pm | #36
Hey conservative ass-wipes. Here is a picture of REGAN doing exactly what O’Bama just did. Going to persecute the Gipper now, are ya?
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c14159-28a.jpg
October 30th, 2009 | 12:14 pm | #37
Bush 2 nor you disgusting father never, EVER went to Dover to honor the incoming dead that they both needlessly caused. The only thing they had the stones to do was meet privately with the families, so no one could see the pain that they were causing American families for no good reason.
Get over yourself, Liz. If you had any kind of intellectual honesty, you would admit that the God of the Republican Party, Ronald Reagan went to Dover to great the remains of the soldiers who died as a result of the decisions he made. Neither your father nor that village idiot who was led around by the nose by your father ever showed THAT kind of responsibility. And get that father of yours to stop disgracing the various offices that he has held, in the public sector and the private sector.
October 30th, 2009 | 12:24 pm | #38
A Matter of Honor
I witnessed the ceremony at Dover. I’m not sure it needs flashbulbs.
By John Barry | NEWSWEEK
Published Feb 14, 2009
From the magazine issue dated Feb 23, 2009
http://www.newsweek.com/id/184772?from=rss
October 30th, 2009 | 1:05 pm | #39
Did White House pressure NYT into changing Dover story?
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/did-white-house-pressure-nyt-into-changing-dover-story/
October 30th, 2009 | 1:06 pm | #40
Bush NEVER went to Dover you people need to fact check.
And you Bush apologists need to stop spreading the meme that his predecessors did not go. Reagan went to Dover, Bush I went to Dover, Clinton went to Dover.
October 30th, 2009 | 1:29 pm | #41
Obama is an idiot, period.
Impeach Obama is the only answer right now.
October 30th, 2009 | 1:33 pm | #42
allheavens, there is no desire on this site to actually deal with facts. It’s a circle jerk. Pure and simple. You are correct. Bush II never went to Dover. He chose to visit families privately and did so about ten times a year. Historically, the Commander in Chief addressing the dead servicemen and women as they land back on American soil goes back to WW1. It was often done with and without press. In recent times, all Commanders in Chief (except Bush II) have visited the fallen at Dover as they arrive home. Here’s a picture of just such an event, with press in attendance (it was also covered by the morning shows at the time) with President Reagan and Nancy Reagan addressing the flag draped coffins of our fallen heroes:
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c14159-28a.jpg
Again, no one here is interested in facts. At all.
They only get in the way. The fact that President Obama is doing his duty as Commander in Chief simply doesn’t computere for those here.
October 30th, 2009 | 1:38 pm | #43
Does the truth even matter to you guys?
I mean, not all of you can possibly have the excuse of being too young to remember that Ronald Reagan was photographed honoring the dead. How do you rationalize to yourselves this elaborately mimed outrage over a president doing what other presidents have done?
October 30th, 2009 | 1:45 pm | #44
And, it is almost worth nothing that the Bush II White House CHOSE to not cover his visits in the press. It was part of the overall media policy of not placing too much emphasis on the KIA. But, of course, when the media DID cover Bush’s visiting with the families of fallen soldiers, conservative pundits (like the ones here) had nothing but PRAISE for it.
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/2005/08/14/newsweeks-glimpse-of-bush-w-war-families/
What you have here are a bunch of hypocrites.
Plain and simple. They simply can not abide by President Obama doing ANYTHING Presidential.
It ruffles their feathers.
I wonder why.
October 30th, 2009 | 2:02 pm | #45
Obama and Sean Penn- operate only with a crew of photographers-Obama has abandoned our living troops in battle and he thinks showing up for the poor dead soldiers makes him a caring person- no – he is a traitor- after the traitor comes- he is a coward- then comes he is only political and has no soul- he belongs with Rev. Wright and God forgive those who voted for this shallow human being!Hopefully he will be gone before he can do any more phony posing and destroy America with his BS. ciao!
October 30th, 2009 | 2:05 pm | #46
To Pat Kennedy:
So I guess your answer to my first question is, “no.”
And, do tell, exactly how are you hoping Obama will be “gone?” What do you hope to happen to make him “gone?”
October 30th, 2009 | 2:10 pm | #47
As a former military person myself, it truly offends me to see this idiot trying to be make believe he cares. It all show for his image not because he really cares.
October 30th, 2009 | 2:36 pm | #48
Notice none of the critics on here have ANY response to the fact that Reagan participated in a “photo-op” or to the fact that they lied and are misinformed when stating GWB visited Dover. Usual lol antics from people without independent ability to reason.
October 30th, 2009 | 2:46 pm | #49
NEA Chair described the big egO as the greatest writer since Julius Caeser. I pray according to my first amendment right that someone renders unto Caeser what is his. We still have the First Amendment don’t we comrades?
October 30th, 2009 | 2:58 pm | #50
Beyond Dithering
Events move swiftly as excuses pile up.
AP
Leadership: As the fire grows in Afghanistan and U.S. troops suffer their worst casualties since Fallujah, the commander in chief remains AWOL on his intentions, delaying the tough decisions. Is he opting for defeat?
Afghanistan commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal warned in August that time was short to win this war. Now October is ending as the deadliest month in the Afghan war. With 55 dead since August, McChrystal’s warning now stings.
Even so, each day brings a new excuse from the White House for delaying a decision on troop reinforcements McChrystal has sought. The goal posts move almost daily. This isn’t leadership.
Last week, the administration refused to make a decision on McChrystal’s recommendation for 44,000 new troops until Afghanistan’s Nov. 7 electoral runoff election produced a valid election.
No word on what to do if it doesn’t.
This week, the president is delaying an Afghanistan decision again. Ten months into office, he suddenly wants an analysis of all 36 Afghan provinces, with information about which areas are governed effectively and which aren’t. This is Jimmy Carter stuff, micromanaging details instead of delegating — and taking his eye off the goal. It also signals a lack of trust in the troops.
The distrust is visible in his dismissal of some defense advisers. On Friday, he’ll discuss strategy with politicos like Vice President Joe Biden, Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Bob Gates and National Security Adviser James Jones. Military men included earlier are now banished.
Now Obama wants to delay a decision yet again because he must take an unrelated trip to Asia on Nov. 11, according to the Washington Post, citing anonymous administration sources. Our troops will have to wait for that, too.
Uglier reasons are around too: on Foreign Policy’s blog, respected defense correspondent Thomas Ricks wrote that one of his sources thinks the tight Virginia and New Jersey governors’ races will also come before a decision on the war.
But as the excuses pile up, events are moving swiftly.
The Taliban has taken the lead in the Afghanistan war offensive, forcing U.S. troops to hunker down. “The Taliban controls the military initiative,” wrote Der Spiegel, blasting Obama’s leadership.
The Taliban also has begun a violent new campaign to ensure Afghanistan’s Nov. 7 runoff election fails. This week they blew up a hostel full of U.N. election observers, killing six, to send a message to any Afghan who would vote they’ll kill them, too.
Meanwhile, Pakistan next door has launched its biggest military offensive since 1971, crushing the Taliban on its side. Many of those terrorists will flee to Afghanistan. Yet, Clinton, in Karachi Thursday, lectured Pakistan about missed opportunities to get al-Qaida, forgetting that Pakistan is fighting while the White House dithers.
Meanwhile, U.S. troop morale is low, our allies are discouraged, and key personnel are beginning to turn in their resignations.
The continued lack of a strategy and the endless excuses points to a disturbing lack of leadership. Out on the campaign trail, Obama spoke of finishing off al-Qaida with a gung-ho gusto, calling Afghanistan the necessary war. Today, he couldn’t be further from that will to win. Witting or not, it amounts to a choice to lose.
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510812
October 30th, 2009 | 3:08 pm | #51
Is outright hypocrisy painful? Because if it isn’t, it should be.
President and Mrs. Reagan paid their respects to the fallen at Dover and were roundly praised – as they should have been for a simple act of decency – while President Obama does the same to catcalls and hopes for his quick exit from the presidency (and Lord only knows what they hope will cause it).
Bush apologists need to look at this and wonder again why their hero never had the stones to see what his wars wrought. Reagan put a lot of Americans in harm’s way but at least he had the guts to face his decisions. Bush isn’t fit to hold Nancy’s purse.
October 30th, 2009 | 3:10 pm | #52
And for those who refuse to believe it, here you go:
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c14159-28a.jpg
October 30th, 2009 | 3:10 pm | #53
Obama only went for the press coverage that is the difference with this prez going.
October 30th, 2009 | 3:41 pm | #54
Let’s apply the same logic expressed here towards Obama towards other Presidents. Here’s a shot of Reagan faking that he cares for the family of a fallen solder at a service:
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c18092-10.jpg
Nice photo op! What an actor!
October 30th, 2009 | 3:54 pm | #55
This is the worst thing I have ever seen. He should be ashamed of himself!
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c14159-28a.jpg
October 30th, 2009 | 3:54 pm | #56
FireDogLake Buttheads clueless about Bush and our war dead
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/10/firedoglake-buttheads-clueless-about-bush-and-our-war-dead.html
October 30th, 2009 | 4:02 pm | #57
Arie… right. And, strangely enough, plenty of conservatives heartily disagree with you.
Does it hurt your brain to be that completely cynical or do you numb the pain with something you can share?
Rather than accept the very real fact that PRESIDENT’S ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND SUCH EVENTS AS A MATTER Of LONG ESTABLISHED PROTOCOL, you prefer to keep your idiotic illusion.
By your own logic:
Here’s a shot of the ACTOR Ronald Reagan acting like he cares for the cameras at a memorial for fallen soldiers from the Grenada campaign.
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c18106-17.jpg
And, for the record, the shot of the Reagan’s walking by the flag draped coffins linked above is at Andrews Air Force Base, not Dover.
October 30th, 2009 | 4:10 pm | #58
The issue here is that conservatives like the ones here think that they have a monopoly on patriotism and true emotions when it comes to our fallen heroes. A lib like Obama is not even human so how could he actually feel for our soldiers or their families? Right?
And, here’s that shot again of the actor Ronald Reagan consoling a family member of a casualty in the Grenada campaign.
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c18092-10.jpg
And, here’s Bush faking like he cares too:
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/2005/08/14/newsweeks-glimpse-of-bush-w-war-families/
October 30th, 2009 | 4:16 pm | #59
This is a pathetic excuse for a human being to say what she said.I watched that and it was very moving.I do not support Obama I am conservative.However this was not a photo opp.You people are greatly misjudging this big time.You have just caused anger for this insane presumption.Cheney just lost my support she made a huge mistake by going to this depth of the gutter.She is a rude ignorant person who just crossed the line.Her father should be ashamed of her.Obama was sincere you could see the hurt on his face.As I said I do not support him or his agenda but to accuse him of using the fallen for a photo opp is the worst possible accusation I have ever herd out of anyone.Total disrespect for the office of the POTUS.
October 30th, 2009 | 4:18 pm | #60
[...] This is not what I meant by “engagement.” Pardon me while I go and vomit. [...]
October 30th, 2009 | 4:22 pm | #61
David, Exactly. But, keep in mind, the people here are entirely willing to allow the POTUS and the country to fail if it means they get back into power. That’s how one-sided they are. They ranted for YEARS about “Bush Bashers” and now they are doing EXACTLY that to Obama. This is the best example of that. Going to military events is a matter of PROTOCOL. And, the press has always been there in one form or another.
October 30th, 2009 | 4:47 pm | #62
One difference here Libs(anti-Americans), in your Reagan photo, it shows a family actually wanting to meet the President. Say it with me, IMPEACHMENT! Is there any Kool-Aid left to drink Libs?
October 30th, 2009 | 4:57 pm | #63
Listen up: Bush visited Dover many times—privately and quietly, as did Reagan. What has exercised leftist worthies denied the photo-grist of flag-dropped coffins is the 18-year ban on media presence at Dover, which comrade citizen Obama has just reversed in his dead-of-night, horde-of-cameras visit to the base.
The military, their families, and growing millions of Americans see this political charade for what it is and for what Mr. Obama is really about. The pending elections will soon signal the depth and breadth of our discontent with this ersatz president and administration.
October 30th, 2009 | 5:26 pm | #64
You libs are comparing apples to nuts–if I remember correctly Reagan’s “photo-op” took place honoring the dead from the Lebanon incident. It was a one time deal.
Obama’s photo-op has all of the sincerity of a Cracker-Jack prize.
Reagan and Bush II supported the military and believed that our military was an honorable institution. Hussein Obama despises the military just like all of you knee-jerk liberals on this board.
October 30th, 2009 | 5:53 pm | #65
David, sure you are a conservative and don’t support Hussein Obama. That’s the thing with you liberals, you don’t even have the guts to tell the truth.
NO CONSERVATIVE can look at this man child without getting nauseated. He’s a pathetic Marxist who is trying to dismantle the Constitution. Look at all of the Communists he has surrounded himself with!
He wants to “redistribute” the “wealth”. Hussein Obama is the WORST President in our nation’s history!
October 30th, 2009 | 5:54 pm | #66
Those pointing out that Reagan and H.W.Bush went to Dover completely miss the point. No one is saying Obama can’t pay his respects to our fallen heroes; they’re saying the timing and method he chose reveal his motivations to be more political than “presidential.” If you disagree, ask yourself why, if Obama has been President for over nine months, he has chosen this particular moment to fly to Dover in the dead of night and have himself photographed saluting a flag-draped coffin? Ironically, Obama’s defenders agree there’s a political angle: to show that Obama “cares” about the dead and is not trying to gloss over the casualties like that terrible Bush guy did. I, for one, am sick of this juvenile moral posturing, as if we are somehow too stupid to know that in wartime, people die. Especially offensive is the idea that if there’s not a picture of something, it didn’t happen, as a dig at President Bush’s private meetings with military families. Wow, how low can you go? It’s no surprise so many Americans hold Obama and his political allies in such contempt when it comes to issues of war and national security. The Democrats and their media lapdogs suceeded in dividing the country in time of war. They put their desire to win the next election above the national interest and the well-being of those who fight on the front lines. As a result they emboldened the enemy, prolonged both conficts and got a lot more people killed than necessary.
Fawning over Obama’s salute is laughable. Talk about hypocrisy! This from the crowd who objected to pictures of flag-draped coffins of firefighters who perished on 9/11, scorned an innocuous “Mission Accomplished” banner, look down their noses at those who wear flag pins, and who regularly ridiculed and questioned the motives of our former Commander-in-Chief, just to name a few.
October 30th, 2009 | 6:13 pm | #67
Hey libtards — thanks for posting those links to photographs of real and true American heroes, especially Ronald Reagan. If anyone with a modicum of intelligence looks even briefly at the photographs, you will see in their expression RESPECT as someone who served in the military — RESPECT for the troops who died so you can sit on your latte drinking libtard a$$ for free. You need to need to move to Cuba where you can suck up to Castro lots more than you do now.
October 30th, 2009 | 6:43 pm | #68
@Solaratov
Bush never went to Dover. Period. So, if you have a problem with how Obama did it (with camera and all) that’s fine, but don’t lie. It doesn’t help the conversation.
Also, you wrote: “Bush wrote (or had written and then he edited) a letter of condolence to the family of every soldier killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.” Not true man, not true.
I hate it when people go right down party lines on this stuff. Obama went to honor the soldiers, don’t say he didn’t. Bush honored them in different ways, anyone who disagrees with this is ridiculous. Everyone just cool out and attack the guy ONLY when it’s deserved. If you attack him for petty crap like this, I only get turned off to the GOP.
October 30th, 2009 | 6:43 pm | #69
Hey Olga, Yes Regan served in the military and he fought bravely in San Francisco and later at the Motion Picture Unit in Culver City. He refused to be taken off active duty and was transferred to the big war in Burbank.
You also seem to be very angry. Are you taking anything for it? Maybe an enema would help.
October 30th, 2009 | 6:44 pm | #70
Neither Bush nor Cheney went to Dover EVER, not once with or without cameras.
Worse, Bush refused to allow cameras EVEN IF THE FAMILY ASKED FOR PHOTOS thereby taking the choice AWAY from the families.
Even worse, Chency recieved 5 deferrments from the milititary, the last one because of the birth of Liz Cheney.
Truth never stands a chance.
October 30th, 2009 | 6:45 pm | #71
Liz Cheney is one tough broad. And I mean that in the best possible way. She calls it like she sees it. Obama was there for a photo op and nothing more. If he were there to pay tribute to the fallen, he could have left the press behind. The man has no soul.
October 30th, 2009 | 6:49 pm | #72
Hey Liberals, FYI Bush isn’t President anymore.
B Hussein Obama OWNS both wars and the crumbling economy! Why don’t you demand that he act like a MAN and a freaking Marxist?
The left is attempting to overthrow our government and throw the Constitution out the window. Obama has declared war on the press and is attempting to silence all dissent!
Good thing conservatives own all of the guns in America.
October 30th, 2009 | 7:06 pm | #73
You conservative are so programmed. You actually want us to continue this fight in Afghanistan. Why should we build the Karzai Crime Family a nation for free. We have already build Malaki a nation and what is our ROI? Why didn’t Bush finish Afghanistan? Why did he leave and go and fight an illegal war in Iraq against people who never did one thing to us?
Bush took 8 years and still did not finish Afghanistan. Now you are so worried about the troops and Obama is a sorry this and that because he doesn’t send in more soldiers to die. Did you worry about the troops in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008? Bush killed over 4,000 Americans in Iraq for nothing. Go yell about that.
Such hypocrisy. Such hatred. Such prejudice.
October 30th, 2009 | 7:23 pm | #74
Patriot
You aren’t getting off that easy by passing the buck. Bush messed it all up. He left Afghanistan without getting bin Laden and went to Iraq where he killed over 4000 Americans. Bush will always own that.
The economy is also Mr. Bush’s. The Financial industry tanked on Bush’s watch. That he will always own as well.
As for Obama’s assessment of Fox News, he is right, they are not a news organization. You say Obama is a Marxist and he is attempting to overthrow the government? What is your proof that he is a marxist. Do you have any documentation or perhaps a link to an article that proves what you are saying. And Obama does not need to overthrow the government, he is the government.
October 30th, 2009 | 7:49 pm | #75
“…he is the government”????!!
What? Do I need to even say anything else?
You are a communist!
FYI, B. Hussein Obama is NOT the government. Why don’t you go read a book on civics and return when you have enlightened your tiny brain.
October 30th, 2009 | 7:51 pm | #76
I guess all you neo-cons want a President who is fine with Americans dying as long as its for Israel’s benefit.
Bush / Cheney are Israel first scum. Obama is not.
October 30th, 2009 | 7:56 pm | #77
Liz cheney / Krauthammer / Bill Kristol / Foxnews / AIPAC = Israeli good, American die
Obama / Pat Buchanan = Americans live
October 30th, 2009 | 8:02 pm | #78
You poor, poor misinformed people. I pray for you and hope you one day will understand what true love, light and insight are, not this terrible, unproductive, hateful blather pitting two sides of the same coin against each other.
October 30th, 2009 | 8:13 pm | #79
I don’t need to read a civics book, I know the pecking order in D.C. However when someone overthrows a government, they come in the form of some kind of militia group. As a rule the one doing the overthrowing is not the commander in chief of said government.
Maybe you should brush up on the history of coups.
So what about my question? Do you have proof Obama is a Marxist.
October 30th, 2009 | 8:25 pm | #80
Will MSM Report on Obama Membership in Socialist New Party?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/will-msm-report-obama-membership-socialist-new-party
October 30th, 2009 | 8:26 pm | #81
Lots of anti-Semites on this board tonight!
Liberal= Anti-Jew, or “It’s the Jews’ fault”.
Can we say German Socialist?
October 30th, 2009 | 8:41 pm | #82
Yeah… Bush hid the bodies so that Americans couldn’t see the cost of the war. Smart move, because it works with you guys.
You want to talk about supporting the troops? How’s about asking Liz why pops, GWB, and the whole Republican majority didn’t supply them with the body armor they needed? Or better yet… why they sent them to Iraq in the first place?
Once again, let’s review…
Republicans failed to stop 9/11 attacks despite being warned.
Republicans attacked a nation that had nothing to do with the attack, spending close to a trillion dollars, and killing tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens, not to mention your own soldiers.
Republicans tortured people, something no other American government has done before in your history.
In short. Shut it.
October 30th, 2009 | 10:05 pm | #83
Dave, Your grasping at straws.
Impeachment? Over what? What proof – PROOF – can you offer as any support of your claim.
I’ll even put on my tin foil hat just for you.
I’ll wait.
October 30th, 2009 | 10:17 pm | #84
Seeing a picture of Obama, standing at attention like a little boy and saluting, when he never served in the military, is nauseating. I am tired of his attempts to manipulate the public with his slick demagoguery. These pictures are so posed and insincere!
October 30th, 2009 | 11:14 pm | #85
Obviously no Good Conservative would ever do such a thing:
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c14159-28a.jpg
October 31st, 2009 | 6:49 am | #86
[...] Obama Took WH Press To Dover Air Force Base For Photo-Op With Slain Troops: Only 1 in 15 Famili… [...]
October 31st, 2009 | 7:26 am | #87
From my website-
http://truthandcommonsense.com/2009/10/31/obamas-dover-moment-surrounded-by-dead-heroes-and-it-is-still-all-about-him/
As I said, there is a special place in hell for politicians who stand on the backs of fallen soldiers for their own gain. This is one of those moments. I wonder if it ever occurred to him that his presence in the White House is part of the reason those young men are there?
Naah. It’s all about him.
October 31st, 2009 | 8:06 am | #88
I am increasingly convinced that the Messiah-in-Chief is the exact opposite of what his worshippers believe he is. I truly have never seen a more hypocritical, cynical, morally bankrupt display in my entire life.
October 31st, 2009 | 8:10 am | #89
This reminds me of the stunt he pulled at the Berlin wall – writing a prayer to stick in the wall, knowing the media would go after it. The funny thing is, he prayed for “humility.” He needs to do a whole bunch more praying for that.
October 31st, 2009 | 8:17 am | #90
I wonder how this man is going to react in 2012, when he’s either unemployed, or facing a Republican Congress? I predict it’s not going to be a pretty sight.
October 31st, 2009 | 10:07 am | #91
“the worst waffler ever in American history…”
end quote ..Americans for AMERICA
October 31st, 2009 | 11:02 am | #92
Really sickening to see Obama trolling for a photo op with dead soliders. He’s really trying hard to seem authentic, but its obvious he’s faking.
October 31st, 2009 | 11:28 am | #93
[...] Jim Hoft [...]
October 31st, 2009 | 12:01 pm | #94
Using dead soldiers for a photo op while denying the reinforcements that might have saved lives is completely despicable.
My husband is a retired Army officer. It really bothers me to think about the additional grief that was inflicted on the family members by having to take a phone call from Obama’s staff asking if their dead family members could be used in Obama’s photo op.
October 31st, 2009 | 12:54 pm | #95
This is a message from the resistance.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My fellow Patriots, what is it that makes us American? Is it our party? Is it our government? Nay! It’s the strength of our American heart and our faith in our Creator! That’s the difference between us, and Washington and the world. Admittedly, we’ve been complacent for a long time. We have gotten comfortable in our freedoms and we are now outnumbered. Outnumbered by evil from every party, working around the clock, without quit. Dust covers our rifles and our Constitution. But, my fellow Patriots, both are still very much there and both are just as effective today as they were 200 years ago. My fellow Patriots, hear this call! Rally together and stand up and fight! Stand with me and fight!
This is Richard Carter. If this message has reached you… you are the resistance.
October 31st, 2009 | 1:20 pm | #96
It was staged and premeditated. It reeks of Axelrod. I am just sorry the one family allowed him to be photographed. My brother has been deployed 3 times and there is no way in hell, we would allow Obama near him. This man is a disgrace to our nation.
October 31st, 2009 | 1:21 pm | #97
And Liz Cheney ROCKS!
October 31st, 2009 | 1:35 pm | #98
Y’all go on about how Bush visited the families of our fallen soldiers without the press present, yet Bush wasn’t beyond doing an interview to the press about his role as “comforter in chief”. His effort at self promotion is disgusting at best.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/22/bush-cheney-comforted-troops-privately/
Give it a rest apologists.
And, by your logic,it’s okay for Reagan to visit the families of the fallen and address the coffins of the fallen because it was an attack, but it’s NOT okay for Obama to do so during a time of war?
You people are just plain old nuts.
October 31st, 2009 | 8:19 pm | #99
Thank God for the president standing strong and proud honoring the brave fallen soldiers of the nation. Quite a difference between he and the shamed and frightened way George Bush treated them.
October 31st, 2009 | 8:22 pm | #100
++
It Has Always Been The Soldier
It is the soldier,
not the President who gives us democracy.
It is the soldier,
not the Congress who takes care of us.
It is the soldier,
not the Reporter who has given us Freedom of Press.
It is the soldier,
not the Poet who has given us Freedom of Speech.
It is the soldier,
not the campus [community] Organizer who
has given us the Freedom to Demonstrate.
It is the soldier,
who salutes the flag;
who serves beneath the flag,
and whose coffin is draped by the flag,
that allows the protester to burn the flag.
~ Father Dennis O’Brien, US Marine Corp. Chaplain
God Bless GWB!
God Bless America!
God Bless Soldiers everywhere for putting THEIR
lives on the line to protect us ALL from terrorism!
==
October 31st, 2009 | 8:28 pm | #101
++
If the family of Sergeant Dale Griffin hadn’t approved the media to photograph
his remains returning to the United States (they were the only family that gave
approval), would the President have still made the trip to Dover?
==
November 1st, 2009 | 3:41 pm | #102
He will shed no tear for anybody. He doesn’t care about anybody except himself.
November 2nd, 2009 | 12:32 am | #103
Obama should have brought a mop for the full photo-op effect.
November 2nd, 2009 | 2:04 pm | #104
The most important thing that all you communist liberals are forgetting is that 3000 innocent people from all around the world were killed on 9/11 by radical muslim extremists and then they continue to kill American soldiers, the same soldiers who are fighting so that you can be a communist in a free capitalist society. GWB was is office 8 months when this happened, who had the reigns before him… a liberal communist who didn’t give two hoots about this great nation, the soldiers or the intelligence agencies trying daily to protect it. The only thing he cared about was which chick is going to visit me next and give me sexual gratification…his eye was on the wrong ball all the time. If you want to blame 9/11 on Bush that’s fine, but you now have to own up as Barry has been in office for 10 months now and where is all that change that he hoped you would have? The economy, the wars and everything else is now his doing and his fault. Just remember it’s easy to pass the buck to someone else, so pass it on to Barry and let’s move forward not backward! So tell us all now how to win this war against these muslim extremists and get it over so we can bring home all the brave men and women who serve this country with great honor and are trying to preserve everyones right the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, something the terrorists took away from 3000 innocent people in this country and all the other innocent people they blow up with their IED’s and suicide bombings.
November 2nd, 2009 | 3:23 pm | #105
Here’s the deal. . and you all know it. The President is not just honoring the fallen when he visits Dover. He is LEADING THE NATION in honoring the fallen. You can’t do that without the press showing the nation what the President is doing.
Complaining about this as an “evil photo op” is, quite frankly, un-american because that’s the whole point of it. . . to remind us ALL very publicly about the sacrifice of soldiers.
November 5th, 2009 | 7:42 pm | #106
George Bush let more Americans die than were killed in 9/11, He let 9/11 happen. He and Dick’s way of “Supporting” our troops in Iraq was to let them scrounge armor. Their way of dealing with Afghanistan was to do nothing and let soldiers die until they reviewed the situation in their last months in office. How sad that the ReichWing hates our troops.
Pfc. M.M. Never an X-Marine always a Marine. God bless the fallen, and flight 93.
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