Thanks to Joe Hard for this cartoon and email:
Let me get this straight.
We’re going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose head says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn’t read it but exempts themselves from it, signed by a president that also hasn’t read it, and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that’s broke.
What possibly could go wrong?
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Rick sent this on the Pelosi Health Care Bill pages 1219-1246–
Just these 27 pages are enough to see what this bill is all about. I bet you will agree. PLEASE take time to read these 27 pages. Anyone who reads these pages and still says this bill isn’t about the government takeover of health care is either a fool or a liar. It’s just that simple.
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This was timely… Today the Fraser Institute, one of Canada’s leading economic think-tanks, released the 19th edition of its annual report Waiting Your Turn: Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada.
The hospital waiting list survey measures median waiting times to document the degree to which queues for visits to specialists and for diagnostic and surgical procedures are used to control health care expenditures. The report measures the wait times between referral by a general practitioner and consultation with a specialist, the times between seeing the specialist and receiving treatment, and the total wait times from GP referral to treatment.
The report finds that Canadians seeking surgical or other therapeutic treatment are enduring a median wait time of 16.1 weeks, roughly the same delay they experienced in 2000-2001, even though governments have made substantial increases in health care spending since then.
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Catholic Bishops call for unprecedented opposition to the ObamaCare plan.
October 29th, 2009 | 9:01 pm | #1
I’m missing it. Can you summarize the problem with these few pages? Just read them and can’t tell the problem.
October 29th, 2009 | 9:01 pm | #2
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October 29th, 2009 | 9:03 pm | #3
If these people want to live in a country with government run HELLthcare…move. There are plenty of them out there.
October 29th, 2009 | 9:19 pm | #4
What it is REALLY about is that Medicare is getting ready to go broke. They don’t want to come out and say that. So they need to distract people by coming out with some new program billed as universal health care that is really designed to keep Medicare from going bankrupt.
What they are afraid to say is that if they don’t pass this health care bill, Medicare is toast and seniors will end up with no coverage at all in many cases.
October 29th, 2009 | 9:22 pm | #5
Premiums to Skyrocket Under Obamacare
Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:55 PM
By: David A. Patten
Millions of consumers will suffer skyrocketing insurance premiums next year due to “indirect taxes” contained in both the House and Senate versions of healthcare reform, according to various medical and insurance industry experts.
Healthcare reforms that were supposed to contain costs will actually cause a sharp hike in premiums, they add. In fact, several studies indicate consumers’ premiums could more than double next year if healthcare reform takes effect.
“So even though this bill tries to hide these costs as indirect taxes,” Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, recently told a business symposium, “average Americans who purchase health plans, take prescription drugs, or use medical devices will end up footing the bill.”
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The rate hikes stem from the hundreds of billions in proposed fees and taxes levied on providers.
According to the Senate’s Joint Committee on Taxation, for example, the Finance Committee’s proposal would assess $322 billion in taxes and fees on insurance premiums, prescription drugs, and medical devices.
The Committee and other experts say virtually all of those costs will be passed along to consumers in all tax brackets – despite President Barack Obama’s pledge not to raise taxes “one dime” on those earning less than $250,000 per year.
Another likely frustration for consumers: The premium hikes will take effect right away, while the subsidies and benefits in healthcare reform won’t completely kick in until 2014.
Scott Gottlieb, a physician and American Enterprise Institute resident fellow, stated Thursday in a New York Post op-ed that by front-loading the costs and back-loading benefits, Congress is resorting to “a gimmick that imposes a stiff price on the public.”
That “gimmick,” according to Gottlieb: Using 10 years of added fees and taxes on providers to offset about five years worth of benefits. Those costs “will immediately shift onto consumers, in the form of higher prices on medical products and rising premiums,” he says.
Democrats have promised to insure an additional 35 million Americans, without raising taxes or increasing the tsunami of deficit red ink spilling out of Washington these days.
Douglas Holtz-Eakin, the former director of the Congressional Budget Office, appeared to concur with Gottlieb’s assessment in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed.
“These costs will be passed on to consumers by either directly raising insurance premiums, or by fueling higher health-care costs that inevitably lead to higher premiums,” he wrote.
The bottom line: Most voters will be paying higher premiums for years before they see any benefits. That could spell serious trouble for Democrats in the 2010 midterm elections.
The Senate bill proposes $2.3 billion in fees on brand-name drugs, $4 billion on medical devices, and $6.7 billion levied on insurance companies, plus more than $100 billion in Medicare reimbursements to medical providers – all costs that would be shifted back onto consumers.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s House bill appears even more expensive. It would impose $150 billion in Medicare cuts on the pharmaceutical industry, and a 2.5 percent tax on companies that manufacture medical devices.
“Most of astounding of all,” Holtz-Eakin wrote, “is what this Congress is willing to do to struggling middle-class families. The bill would impose nearly $400 billion in new taxes and fees. Nearly 90 percent of that burden will be shoulders by those making $200,000 or less.”
Just how much will insurance premiums jump once the Democratic reforms kick in? The figures vary from state to state.
According to a recent study by Wellpoint, the massive Blue Cross/Blue Shield licensee that provides insurance coverage to one in nine Americans some older and less healthy consumers could actually see rate reductions. But those cuts would be more than offset by the spiraling premium increases hitting other insurance customers.
Based on provisions in the bill passed by the Senate Finance Committee – which is more conservative than the broad proposals put forth by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Speaker Pelosi – Wellpoint projects healthy people in their mid-20s could see their annual premiums increase by over 150 percent in at least seven states: Indiana (199 percent); Kentucky (199 percent); Maine (172 percent); Missouri (199 percent); Ohio (199 percent); Virginia (175 percent); and Wisconsin (199 percent).
For individuals of average age and health, and the small businesses employing them, the estimated rate hikes in the 14 states where Wellpoint does business would be:
California
Individual – 53 percent
Small Employer – 22 percent
Colorado
Individual – 52 percent
Small Employer – 9 percent
Connecticut
Individual – 64 percent
Small Employer – 8 percent
Georgia
Individual – 85 percent
Small Employer – 16 percent
Indiana
Individual – 122 percent
Small Employer – 20 percent
Kentucky
Individual – 122 percent
Small Employer – 22 percent
Maine
Individual – 172 percent
Small Employer – 18 percent
Missouri
Individual – 122 percent
Small Employer – 18 percent
Nevada
Individual – 61 percent
Small Employer – 16 percent
New Hampshire
Individual – 19 percent
Small Employer – 15 percent
New York
Individual – 82 percent
Small Employer – 6 percent
Ohio
Individual – 122 percent
Small Employer – 16 percent
Virginia
Individual – 96 percent
Small Employer – 25 percent
Wisconsin
Individual – 122 percent
Small Employer -17 percent
It’s important to note, however, that Wellpoint’s projected rate increases do not account for the increase in medical-service costs over time. Nor do they account for other, less obvious costs likely to accompany reform. So the actual premium increases might be higher.
Assuming voters aren’t happy with skyrocketing premiums, the political pressure to limit the cost-shifting could be tremendous. Dr. Russell L. Blaylock, a board-certified neurosurgeon and staunch opponent of current reform proposals, who authors the Blaylock Wellness Report for Newsmax Media, predicts that politicians would attempt to block the cost-shifting to consumers.
Doing so, he warns, would seriously impact the quality of U.S. healthcare.
“Of course, the government will anticipate this and prevent the doctors and hospitals from passing these costs to their patients,” Blaylock tells Newsmax. “And this leaves one option: Severe rationing of care, which the government has wanted all along.”
The spiraling costs contained in the Affordable Health Care for America Act unveiled Thursday by Pelosi drew heavy fire:
Competitive Enterprise Institute senior fellow Gregory Conko called the bill “a recipe for exploding costs,” adding: “The Affordable Health Care for America Act is anything but affordable. It will force millions of Americans to pay higher health insurance premiums, it taxes individuals who would like to purchase insurance options that don’t meet standards set by Washington bureaucrats, and it forces businesses and individuals to pay for insurance benefits they don’t want and don’t need.”
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, The National Association of Manufacturers, and seven other major associations sent a letter to Pelosi warning the legislation “falls short of the bipartisan goal of controlling costs.”
Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., the chairman of the House Republican Conference, told CNN the Pelosi plan “looks like another freight train of big government with more taxes, more mandate and more spending – and that’s not what the American people want in health care reform.” He added that a search showed the nearly 2,000-page bill contains the directive “shall” 3,425 times.
Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., remarked in a statement: “The people of this country want reforms that provide them with more choices, more competition, more innovation, higher quality, and lower costs. Instead, Democrat leaders have worked in secret to write a bill that does exactly the opposite.”
Karen Ignagni, the president of the America’s Health Insurance Plans trade group that lobbies Congress on behalf of insurance companies, called the proposal “a missed opportunity.” Ignagni predicted “families and employers will not be able to afford coverage and health care costs will rise at a rate much faster than the overall economy is able to sustain.” In addition to the Wellpoint study, AHIP says three other reports, including one by PricewaterhouseCoopers, project that current legislative proposals will cause premiums to increase “far faster and higher” than they would under the current system.
Voters probably won’t like getting socked with higher premiums if the reforms pass. But most of them won’t be that surprised.
A recent Rasmussen Reports poll showed 57 percent of voters nationwide expect the reforms that were supposed to reduce costs actually will make them go up. Also, 53 percent of voters expect the quality of healthcare in the post-reform era will get worse.
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October 29th, 2009 | 9:34 pm | #6
I (as being a Catholic) have to ask this question. Where were these “Bishops” a year ago when electing this President? Remind me again of what percentage of Catholics voted for this KNOWN abortion supporter? Anyone? Anyone? Did any of you Obama supporting Catholics think Healthcare reform would be any different?
October 29th, 2009 | 9:51 pm | #7
As a lutheran, I don’t have to wait for a bishop or pope to see a scam.
Ultimately, health care reform is about Pelosi, Reid, Obama, et. al. It is more a reform of the constitution as we know it than a true reformation that seeks to understand the founders vision for continuity of our republic.
I try not to get depressed, for I do not see how it can work. Unlike cash for clunkers or first time home buyers inticements, there is not a tangible product offered. Like both, it will prove that once again economics are hard to predict using linear models.
October 29th, 2009 | 10:27 pm | #8
Cargosquid -
The bit I read indicates that the Secretary will require medical practitioners to work in areas designated as lacking medical services as a condition to their student loans.
In essence (this may be a bit crude), any med student that receives student aid will have to work 1/2 of each week as a slave to the state.
What is frightening is – the house passed a bill that nationalizes ALL student loans. From the language I just read – we can be assured that – in the future – all college students will be at the mercy of the state – if they accept student loans.
We are doomed.
This bill must not pass.
October 29th, 2009 | 11:22 pm | #9
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October 30th, 2009 | 5:13 am | #10
OT the new jersey governor race is close and listening to fox news i wondered about an article from yestersay…..
http://sroblog.com/2009/10/29/democrats-ask-new-jersey-secretary-of-state-to-ignore-mismatched-signatures-on-absentee-ballot-requests-nro/
October 30th, 2009 | 5:40 am | #11
CBO Score – 18 Million Still Uninsured After Spending Over $1 Trillion
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/10/cbo-score-18-million-still-uninsured.html
October 30th, 2009 | 5:49 am | #12
Taxes Under Democrat Health Bill
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2009/10/taxes-under-democrat-health-bill.html
October 30th, 2009 | 6:33 am | #13
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October 30th, 2009 | 9:27 am | #15
The catholic bishops can, respectfully, kiss my ass. I don’t recall them saying anything against Obama during the elections, and I’ve seen the whole bloody catholic church being SILENT, and actually blocking investigation during certain cases of pedophilia by catholic priests here in Austria. So they can, quite literally, sod off in my book.
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