The National D-Day Memorial recently added a bust of Josef Stalin to its lineup.
The Soviets did not participate in D-Day.
The New York Daily News reported:
The National D-Day Memorial has sparked outrage by adding to its lineup of Allied leaders a bust of the Soviet dictator who helped start World War II and the Cold War.
Not only did Joseph Stalin kill more people than Adolf Hitler in his murderous reign, he didn’t send a single Russian soldier to storm the beaches at Normandy in 1944…
Stalin’s hands were soaked with the blood of millions of Ukrainians even before he and Hitler carved up Poland and set off the Second World War in 1939.
As Hitler’s ally, Stalin’s henchmen marched over a million Poles and Jews off to Siberia and murdered 22,000 Polish officers in the Katyn Forest.
William McIntosh, president of the memorial in Bedford, Va., insisted “the function of this sculpture is not to honor Stalin.”
Stalin is included with the busts of Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill because the Soviets “secured the eastern front and helped win the war,” he said.
“He’s part of the narrative thread and the mission of the foundation is preserve the legacies and lessons of D-Day. One of the legacies of D-Day is the Cold War.”
That explanation did not wash with Alex Storozynski of the Kosciuszko Foundation in Manhattan, whose father fought at D-Day as a member of a Polish Army unit.
“Given McIntosh’s logic, should America put up a statue of Saddam Hussein because he was an ally of the U.S. in the 1980s when we supported Iraq in a war against Iran?” Storozynski wrote on Huffington Post.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:07 pm | #1
Rewriting history.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:12 pm | #2
This is evil. No other word for i.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:19 pm | #3
Typical leftist behavior. That which is evil is good and that which is good is evil.
Time to get some Stalin and Chavez statues and do a little target practice.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:23 pm | #4
LOL!
“Rewriting history…”
“Evil…”
Typical rightwing hyperbole and over reaction.
This makes sense:
“William McIntosh, president of the memorial…insisted “the function of this sculpture is not to honor Stalin.”
“Stalin is included with the busts of Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill because the Soviets “secured the eastern front and helped win the war,” he said.”
“He’s part of the narrative thread and the mission of the foundation is preserve the legacies and lessons of D-Day. One of the legacies of D-Day is the Cold War.”
The following DOESN’T make sense; it belongs in the Department of Crappy Analogies:
“Given McIntosh’s logic, should America put up a statue of Saddam Hussein because he was an ally of the U.S. in the 1980s when we supported Iraq in a war against Iran?”
Here’s the answer: Only if Saddam had kept a massive, superbly equipped and superbly trained modern army divided and pinned down on two fronts for four years while the rest of the world caught its breath and was thus able to defeat the enemy.
Yes, Stalin was a miserable a-hole. But putting his statue in a monument re D-Day and WWII is not “rewriting history” or “evil.” Had he not kept the Germans fully engaged and divided on the Eastern Front, it’s almost certain that the Normandy invasion would have failed.
Any whining to the contrary is simply emanating from people who know virtually nothing about the history of WWII.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:37 pm | #5
Only reason Stalin was fighting Hitler was because Hitler betrayed Stalin when Nazi Germany terminated the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact with its invasion of the Soviet Union at 3:15am on 22 June 1941.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:41 pm | #6
Commenters at NY Daily News aren’t buying it either. It’s either ignorance or willful revision of history. Stalin belongs there as much as Petain or Mussolini.
And Soviets survived WWII only because Allies kept supplying them with enormous quantities of materiel. Sure they had ample supply of men, but it was Americans & Brits who fed & armed them during crucial months.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:43 pm | #7
Oh, come off it. Neither the Russians nor Stalin had any part in D Day. The Russians’ only interest was that it might remove some forces from the Eastern front. The Russians lost huge numbers of manpower in the War, partly because Stalin had executed most of their top generals. We supplied Russia with all sorts of equipment and aid, and got no thanks for that. Sticking Stalin in the monument is not a huge deal, but it is appallingly ignorant.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:44 pm | #8
Just Brayin` Salad Tosser, card carrying member of the useless libtard generation.
Thanks for affirming your a proud spokesperson for Ignorance is Strength.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:44 pm | #9
“Only reason Stalin was fighting Hitler was because Hitler betrayed Stalin when Nazi Germany terminated the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact with its invasion of the Soviet Union at 3:15am on 22 June 1941.”
–Ben W.
Correct! But regardless of the reason, regardless of his own totalitarianism, Stalin nonetheless kept huge numbers of German divisions occupied in the East and away from where the Americans and other allies were engaging the Germans in Italy and later, the Normandy beachhead.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:48 pm | #10
“It’s either ignorance or willful revision of history. Stalin belongs there as much as Petain or Mussolini.”
You’re an idiot, one because you’re simply wrong historically; secondly because you’re letting your understandable animosity for Stalin color the irrefutable fact that he fought a brutal, bitter, all-consuming campaign against the Germans in the East, without which Hitler would have been able to concentrate all his forces in Western Europe in opposition to the inevitable Allied invasion.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:50 pm | #11
It’s a D-Day memorial, not a History of WWII memorial. Just the typical leftwing hyperbole and over reaction we’ve come to expect over the years.
Personally I don’t quite see how a bust of Joseph Stalin is going to increase the visitor count. Maybe there is a large “nostalgia for the old Soviet system” demographic in the Bedford, VA metro area, I don’t know. But my gut instinct is telling me that it can’t be more than two people that will be “packed in” by the new statue.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:50 pm | #12
I think I found a purpose for the ‘Stalin carrot’ – entice the libs to cash them out: “The memorial, which opened in 2001, is bleeding financially to the point that its leadership is urging lawmakers to declare it a national monument as one desirable avenue to avoid the prospect of closing. Pumphrey said he has written Gov. Timothy M. Kaine and President Obama urging federal intervention.”
November 24th, 2009 | 11:54 pm | #13
i have an idea: instead of bitching and moaning about historical revisionism on a blog, let everyone who disagrees with William McIntosh write him and explain history to him so that he can extract his head from his fundament.
Let’s vow here and now to contact the opposition, wherever they may be, and tell them that we stand against them. Silence gives consent. We are not going down without a fight.
November 24th, 2009 | 11:56 pm | #14
At the veteran’s day parade this year while we were all standing around for the parade to start I saw this sign coming down the street “Russian WW II Veterans”. I looked at the guy carrying the sign. Middle aged. Not a WW II vet. Then I saw the old guys moving up behind him. Some in full uniform encrusted in medals. And I thought, “They weren’t russian, they were soviet red army. Stalin’s army. But in WW II, they were on our side (kind’a).” It was…interesting.
November 25th, 2009 | 12:06 am | #15
So, why not add a bust of Hitler — just for historic reasons?
/sarc
November 25th, 2009 | 12:09 am | #16
olds-mo-williams. Good catch on that. Heres the story seems like the statue is to appease the obamao and his commie leanings.
http://www2.newsadvance.com/lna/news/local/article/national_d-day_memorial_will_stay_open_during_winter/21347/
November 25th, 2009 | 12:18 am | #17
“Heres the story seems like the statue is to appease the obamao and his commie leanings.
http://www2.newsadvance.com/lna/news/local/article/national_d-day_memorial_will_stay_open_during_winter/21347/”
LOL!
Sweet JESUS but you’re stupid, Mike! I’ll bet school–what little you had of it–was a real challenge for you, wasn’t it?
LOL!
November 25th, 2009 | 12:24 am | #18
Just Brayin Proud Salad Tosser of any communist that drops their pants. You education is all based on salad tosser talents.Thats why your so good at your trade and in huge demand by the bwaney fwanks of the world.
LOL Lacking Of Logic Fits you good is that why you start or end all your posts with a warning?
November 25th, 2009 | 12:26 am | #19
The criminal charges of Eligibility Fraud and Treason (Barack Obama) and Conspiracy of Election Fraud (Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama) are now pending before these and numerous other Courts.
If acted upon, the Grand Jury Presentments would require that both Obama and Pelosi be criminally prosecuted.
American Grand Jury is actively pursuing decisions in a number of UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURTS located in multiple jurisdictions: District for Columbia, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, Kansas, New York, Texas, California, Arizona, Connecticut and others.
More serves will be forth coming.
http://americangrandjury.org/alabama-and-florida
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2389594/posts
November 25th, 2009 | 12:40 am | #20
WTF?
I do remember the Polish brigades, though.
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November 25th, 2009 | 1:04 am | #21
Time for some WWII history. Stalin was a part of the Axis from 1939-1941, indeed he pressed Hitler to become a full Axis member and had plans to invade and annex Iran and parts of India. By the eve of WWII he had killed 25,000,000 civilians, more than Hitler would have slain by 1945. He shared equal guilt with Hitler for the start of WWII, as on September 1st 1939 Hitler invaded Poland with an army of 1,500,000 from the West and on September 17th, Stalin invaded Poland from the East with an army of 1,000,000 men. Funny how it was on September 17th 2009–70 years to the day–when Obama announced to Russia that he scrapped the missile shield for Poland, coincidence, I think not.
After six weeks, the last Polish resistance was destroyed and Hitler took control of the western 3/7 of Poland while Stalin annexed the eastern 4/7. Stalin then pressed to invade and annex Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania while threatening to invade Romania if it did not give him Bessarabia and north Bukovina, roughly 1/5 of its territory and containing over 1/3 of its coastline.
Between 1939 and 1941 Stalin deported 1,500,000 Poles into Siberia in order to ‘purify’ his new conquest. Roughly a third or 500,000 of them died either en-route or in the Gulag. He also launched an unprovoked war of aggression against Finland and ultimately conquered 1/8 of Finland’s territory after three months of bitter fighting during the winter of 1939-1940, but at a cost of 250,000 men dead compared to Finland’s 25,000.
Stalin, when signing the non-agression pact with Hitler, had planned to betray him after a few years, however Hitler acted first and struck out against the USSR in 1941 with an army of 3,000,000, which advanced throughout 1941 and 1942 before being defeated due to launching too many offensives at too many targets with too few men (Moscow offensive, Caucausas offensive, Stalingrad offensive and Leningrad siege). At this point in the war in early 1943, the actual Allies were successful in North Africa and preceded to invade Italy.
It was Stalin’s idea for an invasion in Normandy, Churchill thought it better to invade via crossing the Adriatic from Italy into Yugoslavia in order to take control of Eastern Europe before Stalin’s troops could advance, given that Stalin showed no intent to honor the UN declaration nor the Atlantic Charter, the rules of war as they then existed or any other treaties, including numerous ones with Poland. Indeed when Stalin’s troops entered Nazi death camps, more often than not they simply killed the last of the survivors.
Also by 1943 and 1944 many top Nazis sought to sue for peace with the West in order to destroy the power of the USSR. That the invasion in Normandy would have failed without Stalin’s involvement is doubtful given that the US and UK had rule of the sky and were already well entrenched in Italy. Also, the US military had 12,000,000 active personnel as of 1944 and its industrial capacity was far beyond that of either the Nazis or Japanese.
November 25th, 2009 | 1:12 am | #22
I hate the precedent it justifies, but this bust really does need to be destroyed, through vandalism or not. We may as well have Hitler’s face engraved on the tombs of all all the allied soldiers. They died, in no small part, because of him.
If I ever see it in person, I fully intend to demonstrate my displeasure to his likeliness.
November 25th, 2009 | 1:13 am | #23
Following WWII, Stalin in violation of international treaties such as the UN which the left loves to praise kept 90% of the territory it took from Poland and deported 3,000,000 of the surviving Eastern Poles (750,000 had been killed by this point and 1,350,000 remained in their homes–and Poland is why WWII started), either to Poland or Siberia.
Stalin, with FDR’s blessing, deported 15,000,000 Germans, 500,000 Finns, 1,000,000 Romanians, 5,000,000 refugees from the USSR, 300,000 Italians, 1,500,000 people from the Balkans and 500,000 Balts. Of all of these people deported, roughly 5,000,000 died in route, not counting an additional 1,000,000 who were murdered in repression or the millions of women who were raped by the ‘liberating Russian Army’.
I could go into detail of how the Russians ‘amused’ themselves in torturing women, children and old men, however all it would do is give you an upset stomach and make anyone from the left faint. My point is that the USSR was no better than Nazi Germany. Indeed Churchill said following WWII “we slaughtered the wrong pig”, while Polish hatred of the Russians remains strong to this day, as does their hatred of appeasement.
To this day, Russia and it’s satellites still contain most of Eastern Poland which was illegally seized as well as territory from Finland and Romania–so much for the UN being anything but a dictator’s ass-kisser and ethnic cleansing pass.
November 25th, 2009 | 1:40 am | #24
The communist-socialist-progressives have been running a good part of this country for many years….look at FDR’s ‘associates’ …
This action w/ the stalin bust does not surprise me–
Is anyone here surprised!?
November 25th, 2009 | 2:48 am | #25
Just Sayin’
November 24th, 2009 | 11:23 pm | #4
Then a bust of Hitler should also be put up as without him and the Germans there never would have been a WW II nor the need for D-Day.
Including Stalin dishonours all those who sacrificed.
This is an abomination!
November 25th, 2009 | 3:18 am | #26
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November 25th, 2009 | 5:11 am | #27
I don’t just seems rather odd but many things are odd since the radicals took charge.Maybe they should have lumped him into another memorial.However it is time for a little Sweet Home Alabama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lNFRLrP014
November 25th, 2009 | 5:32 am | #28
Mike you just might have called it correctly on that one. One thing is certain the lefties sure do love those commie leaders.Just ask Anita Dunn how she feels about such folk.
November 25th, 2009 | 5:34 am | #29
New speak.
November 25th, 2009 | 6:07 am | #30
Thank you for the detailed history, Stephen.
Those on the far left (including this administration) appear to idolize the most evil, dispicable dictators, terrorists and thugs who have ever lived.
At the same time they are repulsed by the goodness and decency we represent.
How can that be?
This video does answer how the “modern liberal mind works” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c
November 25th, 2009 | 6:32 am | #31
Let’s put up a statue of Hitler as well.
His refusal to release the Panzers, due to his concern that Normandy wasn’t the real deal also lead to victory.
One way to solve the issue is to have the statue of Stalin be different in appearance to FDR and Churchill. This sets the stage for the base to contain information on the millions he killed. How he had been a partner with Hitler in the rape of Poland, but then had to join with the allies for save himself.
It is thusly treated almost like a wax musuem display of someone. Not an honor at all, simply a display showing the leaders at the time.
November 25th, 2009 | 6:40 am | #32
Tim
It is different in appearance .If you look closely you may notice that Stalin is not in his traditional garb but rather a Chairman Mao shirt.Coincidence ?
Does a radical lefty really need a reason to put up a commie dictator bust?I mean other then to truly love their philosophy.
November 25th, 2009 | 7:10 am | #33
There’s a Che bust in Vienna, financed by the Viennese city government (socialists.)
The city government here also finances a house full of left wing extremists with 700,000 Euros per year and also gave a 34,000 m² area plus 1.7 million Euros to the Mohammedans in Vienna so that they could build a cemetery.
There’s a major road in Vienna, named after Ferdinand Lasalle, a socialist from the 19th century, who supported Marx’s ideas of the need to wipe out all inferior classes AND RACES.
So, don’t be surprised that some nuts in the US want this with Stalin.
Someone remind the folks responsible for this that Stalin ordered the Red Army to stop during the Warsaw Uprising, so that the Nazis could do his dirty work. Not to forget that Stalin was happy to gobble up parts of Poland for the USSR. And that he stole Japanese territory, that his troops raped and murdered hundreds (if not thousands) of women in Manchuria and Germany and that he also oppressed millions of Russians, Czechs, Germans, etc.
Honestly, I’m beginning to think that making an Adolf Hitler Square will soon be perfectly legit again.
November 25th, 2009 | 7:27 am | #34
Let me see….
Have to take the names of American Founding Fathers off of Schools and other buildings if they had slaves….. Monuments to Confederate Hero’s have to go…. the Stars and Bars is out so as not to offend anyone … etal… yet Lil Joey Stalin is right up front at a monument to honor the Brave men and fallen souls that are true american hero’s. Wow… a day i didn’t think I’d ever live to see. Guess my son and I will have to have a talk so he knows the truth.
November 25th, 2009 | 7:53 am | #35
The absurd moves at every turn are stunning. It is like living in the twilight zone–up is down. It would be easy to drain your energy by trying to right every wrong at the moment. Let’s save our energy for the big items of immediate import–then come back and right the growing list of revisionist efforts. It is a convenient distraction and a tool the left uses to their advantage.
November 25th, 2009 | 7:54 am | #36
Where am I living? This is not America, God, these people are deranged. I hope someone takes a sledge hammer to it, and if they put it up again, take a another, and, another…..
November 25th, 2009 | 8:02 am | #37
There will be hundreds of wrongs to right after this current administration and Congress is voted out.
Getting this done is up to the conservatives and even liberals who realise that our current leaders just aren’t what they would have us believe they are.
November 25th, 2009 | 8:09 am | #38
If someone destroyed the statue, I surely wouldn’t blink an eye.
A bust of Stalin would be welcome in a WWII memorial only if historically factual context is applied.
And that is that Stalin was an ally of Germany up until the moment that Germany attacked the Soviets and he switched sides.
November 25th, 2009 | 9:09 am | #39
Stephen,
Thank you for the succinct, easy to understand history lesson that no current high schooler has ever learned in America.
It is so very apparent who our enemies are and it is obviously the current administration. Any red-blooded American can see that for themselves. Stalin’s bust will be shoved into the appropriate place(s) when the republic overthrows this group of treasonous fools soon enough.
November 25th, 2009 | 9:22 am | #40
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November 25th, 2009 | 1:13 am | #23
Thank you for your history lesson. Where in all this are the Ukrainians? It seems they do not exist in your assessment. Jim at least acknowledged that they exist. Thank you. I get tired of Ukrainians being lumped in with Russians as if there is no distinction!!!
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November 24th, 2009
Rationalize the bust of Stalin to my two uncles who fought against both him and the Germans and died because they wanted to be free of both the Germans and Russians … tell them their sacrifice was for nothing.
November 25th, 2009 | 9:36 am | #41
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November 25th, 2009 | 9:53 am | #42
I’m all for a bust of Stalin, Hitler, Tojo and Mussolini at the National D-Day Memorial.
After all, they started the war. Give them a lineup of mass murders and tyrants in some corner. ………Not next to FDR and Churchill.
November 25th, 2009 | 10:05 am | #43
The Russians had the good sense to tear down their Stalin statues.
November 25th, 2009 | 10:36 am | #44
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and lest not forget this guy..
Rise up for America
[On March 26, 1919, from a podium with over a thousand people in attendance in New York, this statement was made, �I am going back to Russia to overthrow the Provisional Government and stop the war with Germany and allow no interference from any outside government�. I want you people here to organize and keep on organizing until you are able to overthrow this damned, rotten, capitalistic Government of this country.� Leon Trotsky did leave America the next morning traveling on a U.S. Passport provided by President Woodrow Wilson. In addition to fifty or so fellow Bolsheviks who had been exercising their influence in America securing support for the Bolshevik Revolution from New York financiers, highly placed government officials and a willing European immigrant community were �fellow travelers� later described in his journals by American Communist Lincoln Steffens. �Notably, Steffens was on board en route to Russia at the specific invitation of Charles Richard Crane, a backer and former chairman of the Democratic Party�s finance committee.� Trotsky, traveling under a US passport provided by President Wilson, his traveling companions including the former chairman of the Democratic Party finance committee, and his statements to the audience in New York before leaving have, in their proper historical context, much greater implications than can be imagined for our nation 90 years later.]
Obama’s Man Axelrod Was Mentored by Marxist Radicals
[The paper covered Quentin Young’s 1972 trip to North Vietnam and
his son Ethan’s, 1970 sojourn in Cuba with the Venceremos Brigades.
“Essentially what I see myself working for is socialism in the United States…” said Ethan. “Exactly how it will emerge, I’m still not sure…
but that’s what I’ll be working for”.
Don Rose and David Canter took the young David Axelrod under their wing. Axelrod was a regular visitor to the Canter household and the radical duo took it upon themselves to “mentor” and “educate…politically“, the young journalist.
Don Rose later wrote a reference letter for Axelrod that helped win
the internship at the Chicago Tribune which launched his career.]
much more @ link..
Senior Advisor to the President, David Axelrod,
Is Great Grandson Of Leon Trotsky
[Leon Trotsky’s great-granddaughter, Nora Volkow, is Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse:
Dr. Nora Volkow, head of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, is also an artist. One of her painting behind her shows blood flowing thorough an MRI scan of the body.]
[“Two of the suspects, David Cohen and David Axelrod, were released on bail after turning over their guns. Nearly all Jewish settlers carry automatic rifles. Mr. Axelrod, an immigrant from the Soviet Union, is Leon Trotsky’s great-grandson.”]
“we the people” should join forces via a Citizens Grand
Jury accusing them of the crimes they’ve committed..
the courts may ignore the birthers & other such matters, but
if MILLIONS file against them, how could they ignore US??
Glenn Beck at The Villages, November 21, 2009
an excerpt via e-mail from GB
[We have a stewardship. We have been given a great nation. We have been given freedom that no one else has ever had. We have been given wealth that no one else has ever had. We've been given security that no one else has ever had. And we have taken it for granted too many times. We've given our country over to a bunch of corrupt politicians because we had faith in the system. But because this has been happening now for over 100 years, and both the Republicans and the Democrats, they are very smart. They had us arguing against each other and, no, no, it's the Democrats' fault; no, it's the Republicans' fault; no, it's the Democrats' fault. Well, change this congress and things will change; change it back and things will change again. Changity change, change, change. We were drunk on our own wealth and power, we were, we were high on our own assets and home and big screen TV and brand name clothing. We just didn't see it coming. When you can have a senator take a $100 million bribe, they don't even talk about the bill. Let the bill stand on its own. It's either right for the nation or it's not. When you have a $100 million bribe in the bill, three pages, and it's disguised. So you have to kind of figure out who it's for, $100 million, and then that senator come out and correct and say, no, no, no, it's not $100 million; it's $300 million! And they do it without shame. We're in a different world. We are, we are at the point of singularity. We are at the tipping point. The paradigm is about to shift, no matter what it is you want to call it. You feel it in your gut.]
there are hundreds of Marxists & Islamists who
have infiltrated our governmental institutions..
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November 25th, 2009 | 10:42 am | #45
Soon,
Lincoln replaced by Lenin in the New Lenin Memorial and the obelisk will be renamed Trotsky Monument.
November 25th, 2009 | 11:01 am | #46
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what the fascist left have been aiming for is to “equate” good with evil.. that’s the only way they can appease their conscience in the face of the harsh reality they are trying to escape from because it does not fit in with their ideological utopian matrix.. if there is no good vs evil, then all is good even if [the] all is evil.. – bg
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November 25th, 2009 | 11:20 am | #47
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Don @ 7:27 am #34
re: [Founding Fathers .. if they had slaves]
just a sampling:
root/route history of slavery
The Racist History of the Democratic Party
Were all of America’s Founding Fathers
racists, pro-slavery, and hypocrites?
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November 25th, 2009 | 11:49 am | #48
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Don @ 7:27 am #34
re: [Monuments]
just a sampling:
The Truth May Inconvenience Our Perceptions
[Indeed, I have a videotape of black historian, Dr. Edward Smith of American University in Washington D.C., in which he points out that at least 90,000 blacks served under arms in the Confederate armies. This long ignored, or silently suppressed fact is only now beginning to reach the public where it can help to alter our perceptions of the realities which existed in the Old South. It might be worth noting that in the Southern armies, black and white men were not segregated as they were in the Northern armies. They fought side by side with fellow Southerners. In support of this fact, perhaps you are not aware that the first military monument in Washington D.C. honoring black soldiers is in Arlington National Cemetery near the Custis-Lee Mansion. Erected in 1914 by Moses Ezekial, a Jewish Confederate who wanted to correctly portray the racial realities in the Southern armies, it clearly shows a black soldier marching in step with his white comrades in arms. It further portrays the trust that existed between them by depicting a black woman receiving a white soldier’s child for protection as he is going off to war. Somehow, this Confederate monument is never pointed out on the usual tours that you’ll get up there. Does anyone think they might know why?]
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November 25th, 2009 | 11:50 am | #49
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Don @ 7:27 am #34
re: [Stars and Bars]
chilling..
The Children’s Story by James Clavell
The Children’s Story Part 1
The Children’s Story Part 2
The Children’s Story Part 3
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November 25th, 2009 | 2:59 pm | #50
This is all part of the “change” the clueless voted for when they cast their ballots last November.
We must learn to view Stalin favorably. Just as Anita Dunn would have mushy minds think Mao is one of the good guys. By placing Stalin’s bust alongside good men and by speaking of Mao in the same breath as Mother Teresa, how would the clueless think otherwise?
But this comes as no suprise. Afterall, the very first thing BO did was whisk that offensive bust of Churchill from its honored spot in the Oval Office and send it right back to the Brits.
Change. Ain’t it grand?
November 25th, 2009 | 9:34 pm | #51
Stalin’s man-made famine in Ukraine isn’t related to WWII, however it was the second ‘great’ genocide of the 20th century, following Armenia and followed by the Holocaust. This was the biggest event in Stalin’s 29 years of power resulting in the deaths of 40,000,000 civilians. The hard left claims figures of 10,000,000 while anti-communist propaganda lists figures as high as 60,000,000, however neither the ‘low’ end nor the ‘high’ end figures make any sense with regard to demographics and the accounts of survivors.
In 1926, according to the Soviet census, there were 31,194,976 Ukrainians living in the USSR. In 1939, again according to their own census data, that number actually dropped to 28,111,007. Given that Ukraine was part of the USSR and indeed one of its ‘republics’ there would have been no motive to skew the results downwards (as with the Poles, Finns and Romanians), if anything they’d be skewed upwards to hide the crime.
Now during this time period, based on the growth of the Ukrainian community in Transcarpathia (the most homogeneous region inhabited by Ukrainians outside of the Ukrainian SSR), then Czechoslovakia, of 20.03% between 1921 and 1930 or 2.23% per year, one would have expected there to have been an increase of 9,023,905 or 28.93% in the Ukrainian population between 1926 and 1939 with the total population being 40,218,881 in 1939.
That is a difference of 12,100,000 from what the 1939 data actually reveals, suggesting that the de-kulakization and man-made famine of 1932-33 killed 12,100,000 Ukrainians. That is in addition to 1,500,000 Kazakhs murdered (out of a pre-famine population of 4,000,000) as well as millions of Russians living in Ukraine dying from malnutrition.
November 25th, 2009 | 10:18 pm | #52
Stephen:
You did a reasonably adept job with your facts, but your interpretations need a lot of work. To wit:
“That the invasion in Normandy would have failed without Stalin’s involvement is doubtful given that the US and UK had rule of the sky and were already well entrenched in Italy.”
Which totally ignores the fact that perhaps the PRIMARY REASON that the Allies, by mid-’44, “had rule of the sky” and were “well entrenched in Italy” was that literally millions of German troops had been bogged down on the Eastern front from 1941-44. Absent these forces from Western Europe, Allied successes in the West, while bloody and brutal, were made possible.
By the way, the following is paranoid, conspiracy-junkie, tin-foil hat crap, which again takes away from your otherwise decent recitation of historical fact: “Funny how it was on September 17th 2009–70 years to the day–when Obama announced to Russia that he scrapped the missile shield for Poland, coincidence, I think not.”
In short, while your narrative is crisp and your facts are largely straight, you’ve let your understandable enmity for Stalin (and Obama too) color your analysis and detract from your overall paper.
For that reason, I can give you no better than a grade of “C,” but I do give you points for effort and attempted scholarship.
–Professor J. Sayin’
November 25th, 2009 | 10:22 pm | #53
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One Way @ 2:59 pm #50
sarc on/
gee, i thought the first thing he did was appear on Al-Arabiya tv..
hmmm hmmm hmmm
or did dropping the charges against the USS Cole bomber come first..
hmmm hmmm hmmm
but not to worry, Obama is not a Muslim,
and i agree, what he is is an IslaMarxist..
hmmm hmmm hmmm
/sarc off
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November 25th, 2009 | 11:03 pm | #54
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Stephen @ 9:34 pm #51
you know your stuff.. (thumbsup)
Murder by Utopianism by any other name..
[With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto.]
–Professor J. Sayin’ gets a D+ for knowing a little bit about something.. albeit would acquire an F should JS be graded according to PJS enmity standards toward Stephen..
schools out..
HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!
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November 25th, 2009 | 11:30 pm | #55
@Just Sayin’
Yes, I am interested in history. It happened by chance when in either late July or early August I was looking through a history book, seeing what there was regarding ancient civilizations when I stumbled across a map of the Yalta Sellout. Being of German and Polish heritage, I asked myself ‘why’ and for the past 8 years I have uncovered the dark answers–Stalin’s expansionism, ethnic cleansing, genocide and FDR’s approval of it all, making him the worst president in the history of the US with the blood of 6,000,000 civilians on his hands as well as the 100,000,000 he sold into Communist slavery for 45 years. As I said about Stalin’s deportations–backed by FDR:
–15,000,000 Germans
–5,000,000 Soviet POWs (mostly conscripts who didn’t want to return)
–4,000,000 Poles (1,000,000 from 1939-1941)
–1,750,000 people from the Balkans (Hungary, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania, Greece)
–1,000,000 Romanians
–500,000 people from the Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania)
–500,000 Finns
–500,000 Japanese
–500,000 Crimean Tatars
–500,000 people from Chechnya
In all of the cases above, the people in question were living in the areas they were forced to leave since prior to Columbus’ discovery of the Americas, sometimes dating as far back as the 13th century. I have relatives who were subject to those policies of Ethnic Cleansing and lived, others who weren’t so lucky, and some who lived yet were raped.
Keep in mind all of this happened in 1944-1948, while the UN declaration to which the USSR signed, and to which the terms ‘no territorial changes will be taken against the will of the people’ was put forth in 1942. Also keep in mind that based on the 1907 Hague conventions, the rules of war stated that no victorious nation could deport the population of conquered territories. FDR’s going to bed with Stalin in order to in his own words ‘make a world safe for freedom and democracy’ aloud the largest forced movement of people in human history to take place by which 6,000,000 people died. Furthermore, the borders drawn by Stalin’s hand, backed by FDR, are the borders still in use today–justice has not yet come and currently evil prevails.
With regard to me being ‘parinoid’ about September 17th, tell me one reason why of all dates, let alone just under 8 months into his presidency why Obama would announce the plan to scrap the missile shield on that day? Perhaps you’d like to go to Poland and ask the Poles if that were ‘merely coincidence’? Most people know nothing about what September 17th means on the world historical stage so its no surprise that there was no uproar here in the US. However I know that the top government officials, especially those involved in diplomacy knew of its significance and thus Obama would as well. I know for a fact that the Russians would look to that symbolically as they know its significance.
Finally with regard to the Allies and rule of the sky’s–you seem to forget that the Luftwaffe was crippled by the RAF during the time period prior to Hitler’s invasion of the USSR. You know, the Battle of Britain. He sent in his bombers, they were shot down and he ran short of both pilots and aircraft. You also seem to forget that it was the Brits who broke the Nazi coded messages (thus knowing their plans ahead of time), turned all Nazi spies either into double agents or to corpses or who exploited the usage of RADAR to intercept Nazi aircraft and eliminate them. With the full might of his army, Hitler could not cross the Channel.
http://bolekchrobry.tripod.com/polishinformationcenter19391945/id20.html
http://www.halgal.com/graphics/PUR/PUR_map_ethniccleansing.jpg
http://img.webme.com/pic/p/preussen-pommern/optod.jpg
http://www.nicholashaase.com/OstPreussen.html
November 25th, 2009 | 11:49 pm | #56
–Professor J. Sayin’
Professor of what? Apologizing for communists?
Or salad tossing.
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.The only good communist is a dead communist.
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