As Cassy Fiano says, “For some people, there is no low they won’t sink to in order to defame Christianity.”
In the latest outrage Jesus is featured as a transsexual female.
The Times Online reported:
A controversial play which portrays Jesus as a transsexual woman was defended yesterday by its writer who has herself crossed the gender barrier to live as a woman.
Jesus, Queen of Heaven, has caused a storm of protest from Christian evangelical groups, who picketed the Tron Theatre in Glasgow when it opened this week.
However, their attacks have caused deep offence to the play’s author, who also acts the leading role. For Jo Clifford — formerly the playwright John Clifford — wrote the piece in an attempt to create greater understanding of transgendered people like herself.
The play’s opening night was attended by about 300 demonstrators. Roman Catholics joined evangelical Christians for a two-hour protest during which they waved placards and sang hymns.
Yesterday Ms Clifford, 59, from Edinburgh, expressed deep disappointment in the reaction.
“Most of it is happening because of a complete misunderstanding of what I am and what I am trying to do … They thought awful, sacrilegious things were going to happen on stage,” she said. Her critics, she added, ought to reread the Gospel. “Jesus said: ‘judge not’.”
At least the playwright won’t have to worry about the theater being blown up.
November 8th, 2009 | 1:25 pm | #1
off with his/her head!
/sarc
November 8th, 2009 | 1:35 pm | #2
Does anyone have any questions about why the UK is in such a desperate cultural mess? They deserve everything that’s happening to them and so much more….
November 8th, 2009 | 1:38 pm | #3
But don’t dare draw pictures of Mohammad, or else you’ll cause a fatwa.
November 8th, 2009 | 1:41 pm | #4
There is a difference between not judging and having no judgment.
November 8th, 2009 | 1:42 pm | #5
I can only feel sadness for people like this.
November 8th, 2009 | 2:03 pm | #6
I see no riots today. Now we see the difference between Christianity and the “religion of peace.”
November 8th, 2009 | 2:10 pm | #7
People laugh as Hell gets hotter.
The day of reckoning is coming. And Hell hath no fury as the God of the universe scorned.
November 8th, 2009 | 2:30 pm | #8
Maybe it’s time to take harsher measures. You can’t stop people who don’t believe in anything beyond themselves and life in the material realm by threatening them with eternal damnation. Hit them hard in the place they fear the most: this life and this existence.
November 8th, 2009 | 2:50 pm | #9
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November 8th, 2009 | 1:38 pm | #3
But don’t dare draw pictures of Mohammad, or else you’ll cause a fatwa.
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Actually, the EU just decided that those pictures would constitute a hate crime, legally punishable by death in some countries.
November 8th, 2009 | 3:05 pm | #10
Must have gotten some NEA funding.
November 8th, 2009 | 3:13 pm | #11
Yet another example of extreme hyper-narcissism.
November 8th, 2009 | 3:26 pm | #12
hey James, I’m quite sure this play will be making its way to our side of the pond with a quickness; after all, libs over here love to criticize Christianity, too.
Y’know, I wonder if that ‘blasphemy’ bullsh*t the OIC and Obama is trying to push through the UN would take care of something like this…. Any thoughts?
November 8th, 2009 | 3:32 pm | #13
Jesus might not have judged. But almighty God destroyed cities of weird people who angered him.
It needs to stay back in the closet, it hates it’s life so much that it has to strikeout at other peoples beliefs.
November 8th, 2009 | 3:43 pm | #14
Gender confusion doesn’t necessarily mean that we want all the details of the confused person’s messed up life and why they went to a tuck & roll as opposed to original plumbing.
November 8th, 2009 | 3:56 pm | #15
Of course she/he knew it would draw contraversy. That is the only reason to put on such a “play”. There is no such thing a bad publicity. Also seems to be another all about “me’ loon. The UK has all but lost any shred of Christianity, and good judgement.
November 8th, 2009 | 4:09 pm | #16
JenBee
November 8th, 2009 | 3:26 pm | #12
LOL…Hmmm….Let’s think about this for a second, OK?
China is locking up their independent Christian Pastors and churches as fast as they can find them. In Iraq, Palestine,Pakistan, Turkey, parts of India, southern Indonesia, N. Korea, Egypt, Kenya, Karen tribal areas, etc. etc. etc. — all of these places spell Christian as TARGET for oppression and death.
Yeah, the UN is going to do what they’ve always done when human dignity & lives are at risk – have a big debate!
November 8th, 2009 | 4:11 pm | #17
I see this as the “outrage of the week” ginned up by those who really are just angry because someone else interprets the Gospel in a way they don’t like.
Now, people who smugly tell us how much they love Jesus while working feverishly to deny health care insurance to the poor- that I could get outraged about.
November 8th, 2009 | 4:13 pm | #18
Another effete, pseudo intellectual, writing narcissistic crap. “I guess I’ll write a play about a transgendered Jesus…hmmm, now, who can I get to star in MY play, about ME and MY psychosis?? OH! I know! I’ve had ANOTHER brilliant idea! How about ME??”
I like [it's] observation, about how we just don’t understand.
We do understand. That’s the problem.
P.S. Is gender reassignment surgery covered under the NHS in the UK? Just wondering…
November 8th, 2009 | 4:15 pm | #19
Reason60
November 8th, 2009 | 4:11 pm | #17
LOL
November 8th, 2009 | 4:21 pm | #20
They don’t have the balls to put on a play featuring Mohamed as a pedophile who also took men and boys from behind. Reality is way too much for those people.
November 8th, 2009 | 4:32 pm | #21
Now, people who smugly tell us how much they love Jesus while working feverishly to deny health care insurance to the poor…
4% are left out in the house bill. This percentage will be the poorest of the poor. I guess everyone denied them. Time for a group shamefest, right?
November 8th, 2009 | 4:40 pm | #22
Reason60,
Where is anyone debating the interpretation of the gospel? We’re debating the profanity of THIS idiotic play. I think it’s cool you have an “outrage of the week”, kind of like Olberman? I have never, ever heard anyone on this board advocate, or work feverishly “to deny health insurance to the poor”. Those who love Jesus or otherwise.
What me, and like minded conservatives will resist to the death, is destroying the finest healthcare system in the world in the name of fairness. It’s really telling you don’t get that about conservatives.
Hey, Reason60, when did you stop beating your wife?
November 8th, 2009 | 5:35 pm | #23
This is naught but blasphemy, heresy, bigotry and all-out lying–all the makings of a hate crime save it is ‘politically correct.’
To think, a decade ago, the UK had the blasphemy law which made it illegal to publicly display or state things in contradiction with the Church of England.
Another shocker–the UK is among the more religious countries in Europe, along with Poland and Ukraine where a third of the population states that their faith is ‘very important’ in their lives. This being in contrast to 60% in the US and less than 10% in the Scandinavian countries and France.
November 8th, 2009 | 6:35 pm | #24
Western society has gone soft in the head. We are just waiting for the Chinese or the Muslims to work up the logistics to take us over.
November 8th, 2009 | 7:05 pm | #25
Jesus might not have judged.
There was at least one case of Jesus judging. It was just a few days before He was crucified and then rose from the dead.
He was in the temple in Jerusalem. In the temple in the court of the Gentiles were people who were changing money (for a fee, of course, for those from other places without correct currency to purchase animals for sacrifice) and selling doves for an exhorbitant price to foreigners. Jesus very forceably threw out the moneychangers and dove sellers because not only were they limiting the space of Gentiles who came to worship, but it mocked His Father, the Living God.
Yes, Jesus did judge. He had the right to do so.
So, whether we judge this so-called
November 8th, 2009 | 7:18 pm | #26
To finish my previous message:
So, whether we judge this so-called “playwright” or not does not matter. God judges. I would rather be judged by earthbound human rather than God. Unfortunately for some people, that isn’t the way it is.
November 8th, 2009 | 7:30 pm | #27
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Reason60 @ 4:11 pm #17
heh, that’s nothing..
wait until the Messiah tells US that not
all of the “poor” will be covered.. oops!!
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November 8th, 2009 | 7:39 pm | #28
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re: At least the playwright won’t have to
worry about the theater being blown up.
oh, i wouldn’t be too sure about that..
Islamists, like RahmBO, believe in making the
best out of a cisis.. matters not who’s crisis..
JESUS IN ISLAM
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November 8th, 2009 | 8:34 pm | #29
Jesus said, judge not lest ye be judged. The left and iddites interpret this as a get out of hell free card.
I interpret it as a very high standard to meet and an act of submission.
November 8th, 2009 | 8:51 pm | #30
bg
The website you linked to “JESUS IN ISLAM” is bogus. It conveniently leaves out central beliefs Muslims have about Jesus:
Muslims believe Jesus, as well as Moses, John the Baptist, etc. were Muslims. They believe Islam pre-dates Judaism and Christianity.
Muslims believe that Jesus’ death on the cross was faked. Many Muslims I have debated allege it was Judas Iscariot.
Muslims refer to Christian and Jews as “People of the Book,” the book being the corrupted scriptures (Our Bible) that Mohammed was instructed by the Angel Gabriel to amend. Thus we have the Qu’ran.
Muslims deny that Jesus is the Messiah. There never was and never will be a Messiah, according to Islam. “Allah hath no need of a Son.”
Most every faith has to intersect with reason at some point for the believer. Islam intersects with the sword. It is the Cuba of religions–leave and be killed.
Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch site has some excellent background on Islam 101 and the Qu’ran. Spencer has been the target of many lawsuits but he only reports reality and quites the Qu’ran–he’s bullet proof.
November 8th, 2009 | 10:35 pm | #31
“Muslims refer to Christian and Jews as “People of the Book,” the book being the corrupted scriptures (Our Bible) that Mohammed was instructed by the Angel Gabriel to amend. Thus we have the Qu’ran.”
You need not look far for the fingerprints of Satan. What’s easier, displaying evil face on as for what it is (concentration camps, gulags and such) or pervert the word of God and subtly insert evil into the ‘edited’ version?
Back to the ‘play,’ the sad thing is that people resort to such tactics. They could base their work on scripture like Martin Luther King did with regard to both equality and respect with regard to the homosexual community, however in doing that would mean that they would have to admit that their behavior is sinful and that they are different from everyone else, just as someone with say Autism is different from everyone else. The nuts who have taken over the campaign of initial gay acceptance have aligned with the anti-religious groups and turned it into a full-scale onslaught.
November 8th, 2009 | 11:36 pm | #32
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Ladue Pundit @ 8:51 pm #30
i was being lazy, and/but it served my purpose..
really no need to delve into scholarly or otherwise differences of opinions..
the following is non the less true before extrapolating/ dissecting/ parsing/
etc.. :)
[10 brief points Christians
should know about Muslims and Jesus
By Sound Vision Staff Writer
1. Muslims love Jesus. We also love Abraham, Moses, and Noah, to name just a few other Prophets Muslims revere. May God's peace be upon all of these great messengers of God.
2. Muslims also love the mother of Jesus, the Virgin Mary. We believe she was a pious and noble woman chosen over all of the women of the world.
3. Muslims believe that Jesus was born miraculously of a virgin mother and no father. His birth is miraculous like the birth of Adam, the first human being, who was created with neither mother nor father.
4. Muslims do not believe that Jesus was the son of God. God is so powerful and self-sufficient that He does not need a son or any kind of partner.
5. In Arabic Bible the name for God is Allah. Therefore all Arab Christian call God Allah as Muslim do as well.
6. Jesus did not die on the cross. Rather, God saved him as his enemies were confused about him. Jesus was taken up by God to Heaven.
7. Jesus is called Isa (pronounced Eesa) in Arabic.
8. Jesus performed miracles by the Will of God, like healing the blind and those with leprosy.
9. Jesus prayed to the same God as all Prophets and we pray to.
10. Jesus will return before the end of the world.]
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November 9th, 2009 | 12:46 am | #33
Well it obviously ain’t Shakespeare, because in 1605 King James issued the following Act:
“It is enacted, that if, at any time or times, any person or persons, do or shall, in any Stage-Play, Interlude, Shew, May-Game, or Pageant, jestingly or profanely, speak or use the holy name of God, or of Jesus Christ, or of the Holy Ghost, or of the Trinity, which are not be spoken but with fear and reverence, he or she shall forfeit for every such offence Ten Pounds.”
This caused Mister Shakespeare to be extremely cautious of what came out of the mouths of his characters—so much so that on the publication of his First Folio in 1623, The Printer’s altered many of the lines of his characters, especially Falstaff, in order to avoid the Kings penalties against sacrilege.
Obviously that Law no longer applies on English stages, except in the case of Islam of course.
November 9th, 2009 | 5:38 am | #34
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daddy @ 12:46 am #33
actually, Islamists can say whatever they
feel like, everyone else has to stfu or die..
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November 9th, 2009 | 9:06 am | #35
“Judge not lest ye be judged” does not mean that you check your brain at the door. IT means, exclusively, that it is God’s place and God’s alone to ultimately judge what is in a man or woman’s heart.
People are utterly and fatally wrong if they claim that A) Jesus is whoever you say He is and B) we dare not judge (i.e., use discernment) out of some silly moral relevance and wanted to force Jesus to adapt to whatever we want:
A) Jesus repeatedly warned against false messiahs and those who would preach in His name a different gospel. When He asked the apostles “Who do you say that I am,” Peter’s answer was the only correct one: “You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.” (Not: “You are a transgendered female who makes me feel good about myself.”)
B) Anyone who thinks that Jesus is merely the gentle lamb full of love and kindness for all, and does not have wrath, has made a Jesus of his own desires and ignores the real deal. I would urge Jo/John Clifford to actually READ the Bible, especially the parts of the gospel where Christ directly and heatedly challenges (and demolishes) the false religion of the Pharisees, the Scribes and the Sadducees. And false religon is EXACTLY what Clifford has created, because he desires a pet Jesus that makes him feel good about himself, instead of the actual, real Son of God.
Now, having said that, the much better approach would be to confront Clifford directly, face-to-face, instead of creating a scene through a picket/protest. Clifford should be shown the error instead of helping him harden his heart through a picket/protest.
November 9th, 2009 | 9:11 am | #36
bg – I think I’ve seen that list before.
#s 4 and 6 are pure heresy, and the ultimate reason why Christiany and Islam cannot be reconciled. #4 is also a complete and fundamental misundestanding of the trinity. God did not procreate, which is what the Muslims THINK Christians beleive. Rather, we beleive that God is one “what” revealed in three “whos,” Father, Son and Spirit, who have always been such.
And no serious scholar of Christianity OR antiquity — even liberal and atheistic ones — claims that that Jesus did not die on a cross. Jesus not dying is a pure Muslim fantasy.
November 9th, 2009 | 10:13 am | #37
Have you ever noticed that the ones constantly screeching about “not judging” them are the ones who support “hate crimes” legislation?
Write a play with a tranny, homo, or lesbo as Satan or Judas and watch how non-judgmental and tolerant they are!
November 10th, 2009 | 5:49 am | #38
It could be worse… the second coming of Christ could be as a black man. Or worse, a black woman.
One who consorts with prostitutes, loan sharks, even traitors and collaborators with an illegitimate high-taxing government. The Unclean, infected with HIV. Scum like that.
Someone who’d be condemned by the Archbishops and the whole hierarchy of the priesthood, as well as the more democratic Protestant preachers for legitimising such people.
How blasphemous is that?
Sadducees and Pharisees they used to call the Jewish equivalents, of Conservative Catholics and Baptist Ministers respectively, 2000 years ago. Just as loan sharks were called bankers, high-tax traitors were called publicans, and the unclean, lepers.
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