More hope and change…
Obamacare will penalize uninsured Americans but uninsured aliens will get a pass.
What a shock.
Keith Hennessey reported, via Instapundit:
Under Leader Reid’s amendment, in the year 2019 about 16 million U.S. citizens would be uninsured and be forced to pay a penalty tax of almost $800 per year. About eight million illegal aliens would be uninsured and would owe no penalty tax. Both groups would get their health care through a combination of out-of-pocket spending and use of uncompensated care in emergency rooms and free health clinics.
This seems unfair.
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:02 pm | #1
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November 22nd, 2009 | 6:08 pm | #2
This is a fully understandable action – Obama and the elites hate working class American citizens. Also, I doubt an apology will be forthcoming.
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:13 pm | #3
I posted this in another thread down the line but, it’s worth repeating over and over and over and over unitl all of this comes to a head….
“A couple of points…
There is one more cloture vote. Whether she meant it or not, Lincoln informed Harry Reid that if the public option was still in the bill after the debate she would not be voting for cloture. Joe Lieberman said the same thing. He has always said he would vote to move the bill for debate. It’s the next cloture vote, the vote to end debate, that he says he will vote against if the public option is there.
The Tea Party organizations in AR, LA, NE and IN should start recall petitions against the so-called wavering Senators in these states. I know there is a controversy over whether or not a sitting U.S. Senator can be recalled but if enough signatures are collected, at least it might wake these people up. The pressure needs to come from within their own states.
Complaining on the blogs isn’t going to move anyone. Only a concerted effort by the constituents of these Senators will make the difference.”
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:21 pm | #4
Health is grand, but not having health insurance is two grand. Naturally there’s no requirement for undocumented Democrats to get insurance, that would amount to documenting them.
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:23 pm | #5
Hey, I have a sarcastic idea.
Maybe we Americans should denounce our American citizenship, thereby, having illegal status we will then be entitled to all kinds of free-be stuff like free health care and free education and we can live here tax-free. Being that Dems are so reluctant to kick out illegals we all get a free ride.
Whoo-hoo how do we sign up for that bit of insanity?
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:29 pm | #6
Oh, you’re much too polite, Jim!
I would say this absurd little gem is RACIST since their plan amounts to disparate treatment of American citizens while bluntly favoring and benefitting illegal immigrants.
Besides SICK – what else would you call forcing uninsured Americans to pay a government penalty while refusing to similarly charge illegal immigrants?
Sounds like racism to me!
This whole bill is chock full of ridiculous, absurd stuff like the subject of this post – which is the reason this bill wouldn’t receive more than a passing glance from us during normal times. It’s unfortunate that we must involve ourselves – but the fact is that nothing in this bill is worthy of discussion….PERIOD. Unfortunately…..
But, I am putting the cart before the horse here. If this administration continues this pattern of targeting us and trying desperately to ruin our country – we by default won’t be facing any penalty issue by the year 2019. If things go according to their little plan, by 2019 these reprehensible people will have looted America down to our last pennies and for the last time. We can’t pay their stupid penalties if we don’t have the funds to do so, now can we? This type of stupid, circular reasoning only gets these people a well-deserved shot in the foot!
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:30 pm | #7
Uh. Aren’t 16 million plus 8 million essentially the original numbers of the uninsured the Demcs have been wailing about to justify this “healthcare” overhaul?
All this tax, forcing insurers out of business, fees, more taxes, jail, rationed doctors, rationed medical schools, rationed drug costs, death panels and $300 million to Landrieu and the basic number of uninsured remains the same, and the hospitals STILL don’t get reimbursed for illegals using hospital emergency rooms for free?
A lot of money is going somewhere, but plainly into HEALTHCARE it ain’t.
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:34 pm | #8
“Keith Hennessey reported, via Instapundit:
This seems unfair.”
Why are you surprised?
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:47 pm | #9
Hey Betsy!
If someone was to catch these so called illegal aliens and sell their space ship, I wonder how many would be for that bit of insanity also? :)
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:53 pm | #10
They only want to threaten Americans with jail. But you can’t jail illegal immigrants. That would be racist.
November 22nd, 2009 | 6:58 pm | #11
This makes me feel rage. Are you kidding me?? The last straw is coming.
November 22nd, 2009 | 7:33 pm | #12
Socialize the auto industry – Check
Socialize the banking industry – Check
Socialize the health care industry – Check
Redistribute personal wealth – Check
Destroy capitalism – Check
Next on the list: legalize illegals and place them as a burden on the rest of society
Obama’s list.
November 22nd, 2009 | 8:04 pm | #13
I want to see DC burn so bad right now. These political suicide bombers in Congress don’t care if they’re going down in the next election — they’re on a mission to wrap this anchor chain around our collective necks no matter what.
For God’s sake, what the hell do we have to do, wheel a guillotine onto the Capitol Mall? Will THAT get their attention???
November 22nd, 2009 | 8:06 pm | #14
When will this nightmare end? 2010 might be too late
November 22nd, 2009 | 8:08 pm | #15
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November 22nd, 2009 | 8:19 pm | #16
Even more frightening is that once one cannot pay, they get put into prison, and while sick, are denied free healthcare — then their property is seized so Dems can buy more votes to enact their insano legislation.
November 22nd, 2009 | 9:13 pm | #17
0bama:
What wrong? I am just trying to reward people who break the law… and ensure they vote for me and Nancy Pelosi.
No, they can stay on California’s WIC program. That’s the beauty of my plan. The taxpayer gets screwed. Illegal Aliens get cash. I will secure a second term in office. Thank you and good day.
November 22nd, 2009 | 9:25 pm | #18
Hey Victor,
Maybe the alien space ship will be powered by:
Baloon Boy!
; )
November 22nd, 2009 | 9:29 pm | #19
This whole health care debacle has gotten me so steamed this weekend that I had to post a scathing essay about it on my blog. It is blindingly clear that the only thing this legislation succeeds in doing is enhancing the authority of Washington over the minute details of our lives.
November 22nd, 2009 | 9:45 pm | #20
So, all I have to do is renounce my US citizenship and I can get free healthcare, not pay taxes or show proof of insurance and still vote. Maybe that’s something we should all consider…
November 22nd, 2009 | 10:07 pm | #21
Just think, giving free health care to illegal immigrants and then making them citizens through Amnesty will ensure their enslavement to the Democratic Party. The slave card that the Left constantly use against the Right is a red herring, distracting from their own tyrannical control over their supporters. What better way to enslave a nation’s people then to make them dependent on the State for every aspect of their lives?
November 22nd, 2009 | 10:35 pm | #22
Was there really a time when the Government had to pass a Constitutional Amendment to take away an Americans right to consume adult beverages.
hahahahahahahahahahahahah
Now not even a second thought on telling you….. you have to wear a seat belt… a helmet…. you can’t smoke here… who you can hire who you can fire ……. and on and on…
so now if you don’t give up you right to be left alone … to not buy something the government is selling…. it’s off to the Gulag for ya.
is anyone really surprised…… but better yet…..
JUST IMAGINE WHAT’S NEXT
ROFLMMFAO
November 22nd, 2009 | 10:37 pm | #23
If I have to move to a cardboard box, I will never pay one stinking dime to these criminals in the white house and congress. Good luck collecting from me you communist pussies.
November 22nd, 2009 | 10:51 pm | #24
I’m thinking Harry ought to reconsider that section of the plan. Rewarding unlawful entry with benefits and other advantages during financial crisis that PREVENTS US Citizens from providing for their own needs continues to be a bad case of poor judgment. And poor planning and careless, reckless policies on the part of the federal powers does not constitute a crisis for those of us law abiding citizens and those legal immigrants who properly adhered to the rules of this country concerning entry in and complying with whatever the requirements to maintain valid documentation. This is a massively important issue regarding homeland security and border control which are not debts we are bound to repay.
I am quite certain — in fact, since this is a replay of a movie which already had razor sharp results as to demanding the actual FIXES to the problems in order to address the direction toward any future proposals — that both my senators and all my congressional representatives are still crystal clear on their marching orders.
Harry might better get his action plan and order of operational procedures, then double check the structure of the program. If all the cracks and holes in the structure are not solidly secured, I’m thinking Harry will be the one running into a land mine the likes of which he does not want to face again without a solid foundation.
November 22nd, 2009 | 10:56 pm | #25
@ nora… Monday is great day to go down to the HR department at work and change you exemptions to 9.
November 23rd, 2009 | 12:09 am | #26
Reid Senate Bill: Uninsured Americans Will Pay Penalty… Uninsured Aliens Won’t
Racist!
Thought I’d get it over with now.
You may not continue with a rational discussion.
November 23rd, 2009 | 9:13 am | #27
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November 23rd, 2009 | 10:44 am | #28
Hey, maybe I’m missing something from my shattered, depressed, rain-sodden little country but can you red-blooded, God-fearing, gun-toting American “patriotic” types explain to me your rage at illegal aliens getting govt. services? You see, if George W Bush (I thought you guys liked this dude) had got his way in 2007:
THERE WOULDN’T BE ANY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! THANKS TO McCAIN-KENNEDY THEY WOULD ALL BE ON “A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP” AND THIS ISSUE WOULDN’T EVEN EXIST! Oops shouting, sorry …
Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007
“S.1639 would have created a new class of visa, the “Z visa” (ZOMBIE?), that would be given to everyone who was living without a valid visa in the United States on Jan. 1, 2008; this visa would give its holder the legal right to remain in the United States for the rest of their lives, and access to a Social Security number.”
Thinking that all your problems can be blamed on Bollock Obama and Keith Olbermann is going to get your country killed Yanks. You are in much more trouble than that. Your country is being transformed with the connivance of almost your entire ruling-class, from a liberty-based nation to a license-based nation like the transformation Britain underwent in the 1940s. You know how that turned out don’t you? Yeah.
November 23rd, 2009 | 1:53 pm | #29
This is the open invitation to all the Muslims of the world to come and live inside our borders…we will call them undocumented aliens! We will pay for your joblessness and health care! You can triple the size of your families because forced abortions will be bestowed only upon the Christians! Soon enough, you will be the majority and we can finally kill them all off including the retarded liberals who set this up.
November 23rd, 2009 | 4:00 pm | #30
Hey Englebert, why do you think we conservatives were up in arms about G.W. wanting to give illegal aliens a “pathway to citizenship”? You see, true conservatives don’t just follow lockstep (see “goosestep”) with whatever the Republican party or Republican president says. We fight for what we believe is right, and we will rally against ANYONE who does what is wrong, even another conservative. But demogogues (I’m sorry democrats) just go along with whatever their leaders say and do. Anyone who does that are just a bunch of lemmings, or as Michael Savage calls them, “sheeple”. I love that word!!! But don’t worry, we who do not follow blindly will also save those of you who do.
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