And, Holder goes under the bus…
Barack Obama says he was not consulted on the terror suspect trial.
From the FOX Business Channel: Fox News’ Chris Wallace on Attorney General Eric Holder’s decision to hold a civilian trial in New York for the 9/11 terror suspects.
Are we really supposed to believe this?
November 20th, 2009 | 7:40 am | #1
That’s a very weak president, when his appointed undelings do what ever they want. Very weak.
November 20th, 2009 | 7:41 am | #2
yup – holder, his wife and brother who was a port authority officer. o was probably playing “king of the world” on his wii. much like
jimmy carter consulting with amy…… the lubatics are running the assylum.
November 20th, 2009 | 7:42 am | #3
*cough* bs *cough*
You have two choices which funnels to one truth:
1) Obama did not know, and is incompetent as a leader
2) Obama did know, and is incompetent as a leader
Truth: Obama is incompetent.
November 20th, 2009 | 7:43 am | #4
“the lubatics are running the assylum” they can
very well be but not without the lunatics….
November 20th, 2009 | 7:50 am | #5
So, in other words, Obama is:
1. Either completely our of control of his administration, or
2. Lying.
Are we really to believe that the AG would NOT consult the POTUS on a matter of this monumental importance?
November 20th, 2009 | 7:54 am | #6
Leading a company or a country means “the buck stops here”. Leading a community organization means motivating the people but taking no responsiblity (except when things go well). We need a Commander-in-Chief not a Delegater-in-Chief.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:00 am | #7
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November 20th, 2009 | 8:01 am | #8
“the AG would NOT consult” maybe obama is nothing but a false front – like the buildings in
china that had false fronts to clean up the visual for the olympics. wasn’t obama impressed with china [during coverage of olympics].
November 20th, 2009 | 8:07 am | #9
Interesting….heard The One pontificating when a lowly Senator how Military Tribunals were places where suspects would have “all the bells and whistles” and defendent protections available, that these were good and noble things. He even stated his conviction that KSM was guilty and that justice would be served (usual passive tense and Liberal avoidence of demanding any specific, dire sentence… should have been a clue).
As with all of his other BS, that was then, this is now.
Even Holder’s convoluted explanation to Congress seemed to imply the tribunals are OK for some folks (already IN PROGRESS for KSM, but this adled adminstration canceled it), but not for others. Exactly how to choose was profoundly lacking.
This makes the old Keystone Cops look positively poised, polished and professional. Compared to this community-organizing Gang That Can’t Shoot Straight, they were!
November 20th, 2009 | 8:11 am | #10
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November 20th, 2009 | 8:20 am | #11
We all know what they are up to, but what can we do about it? Seriously–what can we do?
November 20th, 2009 | 8:24 am | #12
This is an effort by our great leader to get his
Islamic friends released because all the evidence was obtained w/o Miranda rights being read/followed.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:25 am | #13
Oh, Dear Lord, help us.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:25 am | #14
According to Ashcroft, Holder–a cabinet level official–has no authority to tell Gates–a cabinet level–official to do anything. They are level and the decision must be made by their superior, who happens to be, to our misfortune, POTUS.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:28 am | #15
“Are we really supposed to believe this?”
Only if you’re an idiot.
Or a Democrat.
Or a member of the lapdog media.
But I repeat myself.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:28 am | #16
B.O. votes “present” again.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:31 am | #17
Obama’s finger prints are all over this.As with everything it is always someone else who is at fault.Unless of course it turns out good.Then the Prezbo will be declaring his wise decision making skills–LOL
November 20th, 2009 | 8:32 am | #18
The Democrats have the House, the Senate and the Presidency and they still don’t know who is in charge. What’s worse, they are arguing about it.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:32 am | #19
Hee’s lying, as usual.
He is incompetent. And this will turn out even worse than it is for him right now.
BUT of course we are suppopsed to believe every single word out of Obama’s mouth. That’s how all of this is supposed to work. We are not allowed to question or dissent. I do not think they can contain both the Hasan story and the KSM thing and I do not think that occurs to anyone pulling the strings.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:34 am | #20
Nice buck passing by the jugeared dolt.
What we got here, is a potemkin president.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:35 am | #21
So now we know what Biden meant when he said that Obama was “clean.” Clean in leaving no fingerprints on anything.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:37 am | #22
I think the wheels on that infamous Obama bus are starting to wobble. We can only hope that they fall off before the wheels on the America bus do.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:40 am | #23
To borrow from our current Secretary of State, it would take a “willing suspension of disbelief” to buy into this load of horse hockey.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:43 am | #24
What kind of a government do we have today? One that can guarantee convictions? This definitely seems much worse then what we had.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:45 am | #25
The daily lie. What will he lie about tomorrow? If this were a drinking game we’d be in even worse trouble.
November 20th, 2009 | 8:49 am | #26
Dr. Utopia is still at (-14) at Rasmussen.
How low can he go?
November 20th, 2009 | 8:52 am | #27
Yeah sure, but Holder cannot do something like this without our dear reader authorizing it.
November 20th, 2009 | 9:00 am | #28
I don’t believe that this was only Holder’s idea, but Holder did an interview with Jim Lehrer last week and stated that BO was only told as he was jetting off to Asia.
November 20th, 2009 | 9:01 am | #29
Implausible Deniability, if those are even words, but they fit the bill here. Not ready for prime time is back in action. mpw
November 20th, 2009 | 9:10 am | #30
If I were a “friend” or associate of Obama’s, I would have a secret stash of notes and information I would need to protect myself after the Big O threw me under the bus.
I would have them under lock and key and have multiple copies. I would have an attorney with specific instructions to reveal the notes should somethng happen to me…associating with Obama is dangerous to your health and job.
Of course, if you run around with an Alinsky operative, you know what you’re getting. Pure ruthlessness.
November 20th, 2009 | 9:13 am | #31
Where have we heard this before? Oh yeah it was when Clinton said that Janet Reno ordered the attack on women and children ending with burning them all to death. This party wants us to believe that underlings are running the show, but only when something goes wrong. Either way they are weak and liars.
November 20th, 2009 | 9:15 am | #32
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November 20th, 2009 | 9:17 am | #33
Aren’t we forgetting that–according to the Governor of New York–he was told by the White House that they were thinking about this several months ago? If so, then President Present let that much time go by without getting more information about this from his AG? Let’s start connecting the dots here folks.
November 20th, 2009 | 9:17 am | #34
So Soros and the Union boss forgot to tell Obama after they gave the marching orders to Holder. Whats so hard to believe?
November 20th, 2009 | 9:20 am | #35
Obama is not lying.
Holder made the decision, and it was the type of decision that he was chosen to make. He is like Obama’s twin; no need to supervise him. He can be put on autopilot and deliver exactly what O wants:
Drop the charges against Black Panther thugs;
Drag Alberto Gonzales up for following the Constitution (firing U.S. attorneys);
Prosecute Cheney, et al for war crimes;
Holder is not under the bus, Holder is co-piloting the bus.
……………………………….
November 20th, 2009 | 9:26 am | #36
“That is not the Jeremiah Wright that I knew”
“That is not the Eric Holder that I knew”
Obama, or his Chicago mentors, must have developed a Standard Tactic of plausible (to their acolytes and the MSM) deniability. Here it is again dragged wearily across the stage.
His whole campaign was devoted to shutting down Guantanamo. His standard excuse for the failure of nirvana to date under his administration is, blame Bush.
Holder’s ‘decision’ to bring KSM to NYC could not possibly have been unilateral by the AG’s office. The deniability of Obama’s involvement in this travesty is as implausible as it gets, and still he’s buffoonishly voting ‘present’.
The buck stops here, Mr. ‘President’. Live with it. Enjoy your show trial, it’s what you’ve lived for since Punahou.
November 20th, 2009 | 9:31 am | #37
My question is whether they have begun planning for Holder’s retirement party. Obama appears once again to be eager to scape goat another of his loyal team. When will some of those guys get it?
November 20th, 2009 | 9:36 am | #38
So, does this mean the treacherous plan is scraped?
November 20th, 2009 | 9:37 am | #39
Terrorists in NYC. No worries. Obama will kick their arses. He’s a blackbelt now, donchaknow.
Obama Gets a Black Belt in Taekwondo To Go With His Nobel Peace Prize
http://dougpowers.com/2009/11/19/obama-black-belt/
November 20th, 2009 | 9:46 am | #40
The obvious comment of “This is not the Eric Holder I knew” won’t wash here; this is the result of no experience in anything wityh any substance. Community organizing does not prepare a person for ANYTHING in the real world let alone holding office.
Serious and intelligent voters considered that in 2008; image and feelings-based voters only considered his skin and “cool factor”. Voters should have to pass a test before being issued a voter registration card.
History will show BHO as the most incompetent and America-damaging president, thanks to the 52% who did not consider the facts of his abilities, radical indoctrination throughout his adult life and likely policy direction (of course there is a portion of that 52% who really liked where they thought he would take this country).
BHO is who he is, 100% of the fault lies at every person who voted for the lying radical bastard.
The only solution is for BHO to be removed from office by one way or another. I don’t wish harm on the man but I also don’t wish harm on my country which he does at EVERY TURN.
2012 cannot come fast enough!
November 20th, 2009 | 9:49 am | #41
The Clothes Have No Emperor
http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2009/11/19/the-clothes-have-no-emperor-3/#comments
November 20th, 2009 | 9:49 am | #42
::cue Truth Czar Joe Wilson::
“YOU LIE!”
November 20th, 2009 | 9:49 am | #43
LaduePundit, yes, Governor Patterson said that he was told months ago by the White House that this trial was going to happen. Now, add to that Newsweak reporting that the Marshals Service began “risk” assessments months ago for holding the trial in New York and trying to determine how many security squads would be required to protect the trial participants, i.e. judge and jury.
So now we are to believe that Patterson was notified and the Marshalls Service put into action and the POTUS knew nothing?
If Barack Hussein Obama thinks this is going to make him look good to all those 9-11 families and FDNY firefighters he just stabbed in the back, he is wrong. It makes him look incompetent and out of control. Someone needs to dig up a “The Buck Stops Here” sign and put it on his desk.
I have thought for a long time that Obama is just eye candy for those who are really running the show. He is no more than the mouth piece of the mob, with the real Dons staying in Washington, running the nation, while he globe hops, contributing to the global warming problem he is so concerned about.
If you want to know who is really running the nation, look no further than David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel. But they needed a front man, someone that would be putty in their hands, to run for POTUS because no one would even buy a used car from either of those guys.
November 20th, 2009 | 9:52 am | #44
I don’t think we’ll ever see a book from Obama titled ‘The Audacity of Leadership’.
November 20th, 2009 | 9:54 am | #45
For the “smartest” man in the World. Hussein’s constant “briar patch” response is wearing thin.
Is that racist?
November 20th, 2009 | 10:00 am | #46
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November 20th, 2009 | 10:01 am | #47
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November 20th, 2009 | 10:01 am | #48
He didn’t know? Why is Obama more interested and tuned in to a local cop in Boston arresting a friend of his than the 9/11 terrorist trials? Is he that out of touch with America…or is he just lying?
November 20th, 2009 | 10:01 am | #49
“Hussein’s constant “briar patch” response is wearing thin.
Is that racist?”
Yes, but we don’t have to care anymore! We’re all “typical White people” now!
November 20th, 2009 | 10:02 am | #50
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November 20th, 2009 | 10:11 am | #51
That revving sound you hear is the Obama Express warming up its engines. Watch out, Eric- you’ll be under the wheels in no time.
November 20th, 2009 | 10:18 am | #52
As a very important aside, we must remember that it’s not just The Won. Congress is, with very few exceptions, Marxist to the core. If not overt Marxists, many of them, then, are just cowardly.
November 20th, 2009 | 10:18 am | #53
Just imagine the newspapers if this idiot president wasn’t a Democrat.
November 20th, 2009 | 10:30 am | #54
You know what’s been missing lately from these blog posts?
Trolls.
Where are the trolls?
Hmmmmmmmm….maybe they are sick of saving obama’s can.
November 20th, 2009 | 10:45 am | #55
Interestingly enough, it is the opinion of the not so civil servants at the Department of Justice that the President, much less the Attorney General, should not be involved in such decisions. They think that they run the government, not the elected Constitutional officers.
November 20th, 2009 | 10:45 am | #56
The Attorney General does not have sole authority to take prisoners of war – or ‘unlawful combatants’ – from military jurisdiction and try them in civilian courts.
His statement that Obama was not consulted can only be true in the sense that Holder already knew the president’s opinion, and therefore didn’t need to consult.
November 20th, 2009 | 10:46 am | #57
Liar, liar pants on fire. No one has the authority to compel the Sec Def to release a prisoner in the DoD system over to the DoJ but the CinC.
November 20th, 2009 | 11:04 am | #58
What did you expect out of the boy-king?
One of the hallmarks of being an adult is taking responsibility for your own actions. The boy-king, the Corruptocrats and their supporters never do.
November 20th, 2009 | 11:07 am | #59
He’s a lying sack.
November 20th, 2009 | 11:13 am | #60
Barack Obama says he was not consulted on the terror suspect trial.
Please.
Are we really expected to believe that these people are simply doing whatever suits them, independent of their boss?
November 20th, 2009 | 11:13 am | #61
++
Holder decided to bring KSM to NY..
Obama decided to bring Holder to the WH..
you figure it out..
==
November 20th, 2009 | 12:02 pm | #62
Jack Stern I hope your seeing this because if the obamao death care dies in the Senate your the next chump to feel the tires of the obamao bus as it greedily runs you over.
November 20th, 2009 | 12:10 pm | #63
Barry, just because you’ve got people on your team stupid enough to think like you – and even more stupid to take the fall for you – doesn’t mean most Americans are stupid enough to believe a word you say.
****
“Just imagine the newspapers if this idiot president wasn’t a Democrat.” Brad, #53.
What’s a newspaper?
November 20th, 2009 | 12:14 pm | #64
You knew they’d say that. From the start, we all knew it.
November 20th, 2009 | 12:18 pm | #65
Betsy Ross, yes the plague of the trolls seems to have dissipated. quite surprising.
November 20th, 2009 | 12:37 pm | #66
I’m a little curious. Just how is it that the attorney general (a trial lawyer with a fancy title and corner office) gets to take a prisoner of war (supposedly) away from the dept. of defense and their legally-constituted system of “military commissions?
One cabinet-level officer cannot infringe on the purview of another cabinet-level officer without the direct involvement of the potus.
If obama says that he knew nothing of this switch to a civilian court — he’s lying through his teeth.
Holder had to go to potus first with the plan and a request for the change of venue; and obama had to order Gates to suspend the “military commission” which was already trying ksm and to turn ksm over to the DoJ for a civilian trial.
Any other scenario is not possible.
The potus is lying.
But then, what’s new about that?
November 20th, 2009 | 12:39 pm | #67
POTUS is the only one that can make any decision dealing with the Detainees at GITMO or anywhere else:
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/11/print/20011113-27.html
That is very clear as to who is the authority and who is responsible for detention, trial, etc
November 20th, 2009 | 12:47 pm | #68
++
re: Barack Obama says he was not
consulted on the terror suspect trial.
B Hussein O Fatwas
no: ‘enemy combatants’
no: ‘war on terrorism’
no: ‘terrorism’
okay, so what will the admitted 9/11 master mind be charged with??
Obama’s UN Resolution to Stifle Free Speech on Islam
[On October 1, 2009, the Obama administration in conjunction with the Egyptian government, introduced an anti-free speech measure to the United Nation’s Human Rights Council (HRC). It was adopted the next day without a vote.
[..]
Little evidence suggests that Americans on either side of the aisle contemplated the US entering the ring and supporting the opposition’s anti-freedom measures. Yet now, the current administration has done worse: it’s leading the charge.]
will KSM link to Jihad/Islam even be
allowed to be mentioned in court??
==
November 20th, 2009 | 12:56 pm | #69
++
testing 1, 2, 3..
==
November 20th, 2009 | 1:04 pm | #70
++
pardon if a repeat..
re: Barack Obama says he was not
consulted on the terror suspect trial.
B Hussein O Fatwas
no: ‘enemy combatants’
no: ‘war on terrorism’
no: ‘terrorism’
okay, so what will the admitted 9/11 master mind be charged with??
Obama’s UN Resolution to Stifle Free Speech on Islam
[On October 1, 2009, the Obama administration in conjunction with the Egyptian government, introduced an anti-free speech measure to the United Nation’s Human Rights Council (HRC). It was adopted the next day without a vote.
[..]
Little evidence suggests that Americans on either side of the aisle contemplated the US entering the ring and supporting the opposition’s anti-freedom measures. Yet now, the current administration has done worse: it’s leading the charge.]
will KSM link to Jihad/Islam even be
allowed to be mentioned in court??
re: Are we really supposed to believe this?
“I am not a Muslim” ~ B Hussein O
==
November 20th, 2009 | 1:30 pm | #71
All of this trial business is a smokescreen for a bigger caper.
KSM wanted to be executed 11 months ago. He’s already plead guilty. There is no need for a trial.
KSM was never mirandized and a civil court judge could let him walk.
This trial is about something much larger–putting our government, military, and past administration officials on the gallows.
The healthcare plan–not about health OR insurance–but all about control.
Cap and Trade–not about greening the country, all about greening the pockets of liberals and controlling the means of production.
The liberals’ stars are aligned right now for a massive takeover. The conservatives of this country need to be the asteroid shower that rains on their parade.
……………………..
November 20th, 2009 | 1:35 pm | #72
Perhaps, but then why is:
Axelrod Sidelined!!!: Obama Cedes Control of 2012 Reelection Bid to Muslim Political Mastermind!
November 20th, 2009 | 2:07 pm | #73
I would like to know there all this money is that went to all these district that don”t exist and jobs that did”t exist IS that what they call Omaba Stash.
November 20th, 2009 | 2:27 pm | #74
++
naturalfake @ 1:35 pm #72 (thumbsup)
[nf: I’ll bet you you were surprised when
President Obama had you come to New York.
KSM: I was. But, he’s given me everything I could possibly want – hundreds of millions of dollars of world-wide media and an almost completely open forum for hours each and every day.
I’m going to use it to jump start a new community organizing
program within the U.S. Muslim population that I like to call
J.I.H.A.D.
nf: J.I.H.A.D.?
KSM: Yes! it stands for Join In!
Happy American Democrats!
nf: I see…
KSM: I hope to inspire individuals to stage spectacular political
events like Major Hasan’s down in Texas a couple of weeks ago.]
brilliant..
albeit great satire with a bit of sarcasm tossed in..
unfortunately for US, there’s more truth to it than fiction..
==
November 20th, 2009 | 3:42 pm | #75
WHO HAS COMMANDER IN CHIEF AS A TITLE? THIS DECISION LIES WITH HIM AND HIM ALONE, HE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO ESCAPE THIS! ERIC HOLDER DOES NOT HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO MAKE THIS DECISION, IT’S OBAMAS, HE OWNS IT! YOU HEAR THAT YOU LYING FRAUD, OBAMA?
November 20th, 2009 | 3:53 pm | #76
Obama says there’s supposed to be a “firewall between the WH and the DOJ?” So, is that why the DOJ is representing Obama in his eligibility suit in Judge David Carter’s Fed Ct in California. This is not even representing Obama in any official capacity.
November 20th, 2009 | 4:00 pm | #77
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November 20th, 2009 | 4:25 pm | #78
Go to thebravest.com and add your voices to the men and women of the NYPD and NYFD.
As a New Yorker, I do not want these terrorists on American soil.
Keep them in Cuba and let them stand trial there.
We are not afraid, we are outraged.
November 20th, 2009 | 4:49 pm | #79
There is also a petition on J.Sekalow’s (ACLJ)
https://www.aclj.org/Petition/Default.aspx?sc=3509&ac=1
Add your name to the group of 13077 people
who have already signed using the Internet!
Keep Terrorists OUT of Civilian Courts
President Obama’s Administration has decided to bring the worst of the worst — the terrorists responsible for the tragedy of 9/11 — to American soil to stand trial. What’s worse, they are planning to take them out of the military justice system and try these terrorists in CIVILIAN courts — a dangerous move that will put our war on terrorism in jeopardy. Stand with the American Center for Law and Justice and support Sen. Lindsey Graham’s legislative effort to keep the terrorists OUT of civilian courts. Please read the form below carefully and declare your membership with the ACLJ by adding your name to our Petition to Keep Terrorists Out of Civilian Courts.
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November 20th, 2009 | 5:51 pm | #80
TaSS
November 20th, 2009 | 4:25 pm | #78
I just signed that petition too:
Great website and links to another good web:
http://www.keepamericasafe.com/
November 20th, 2009 | 6:35 pm | #81
Chris Wallace is such a maggot – he makes me want to puke. The apple didn’t fall very far from the tree now did it.
Lord, How I miss Tony Snow.
I don’t even know why this conversation is going on between Imus and Chris Wallace other than Fox is somehow trying to pump some life into its Sunday Morning Show.
On its face the whole thing is pure bunk.
I can buy that BHO had no clue but I assure you all that Axelrod and friends – the puppet masters – knew all about it.
This is nothing less than a thinly veiled attempt to prosecute the Bush administration for war crimes. Clearly this is the kind of crap you see in third world banana republics where the new president has his predecessor executed on inauguration day.
To what end though? Is it worth it to attempt to destroy the Bush administration and the USA but lose the conviction of KSM?
Dear God, Please help us all.
…Lee
November 20th, 2009 | 6:51 pm | #82
Obe-Wan Daley has taught you well.
November 21st, 2009 | 5:24 pm | #83
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