“You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.”
Democrat Martha Coakley was on with Ken Pittman from WBSM in Massachusetts today. Martha told Ken that if you object to abortion and are a devout Catholic then…
“You probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.”
From the interview:
Ken Pittman: Right, if you are a Catholic, and believe what the Pope teaches that any form of birth control is a sin. ah you don’t want to do that.
Martha Coakley: No we have a seperation of church and state Ken, lets be clear.
Ken Pittman: In the emergency room you still have your religious freedom.
Martha Coakley: (……uh, eh…um..) The law says that people are allowed to have that. You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.
The entire interview is posted here.
UPDATE: Scott Brown just surged ahead of Martha Coakley in the latest poll.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:13 pm | #1
You don’t have to be bright or competent to be an elected Democrat.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:15 pm | #2
Prosecutor sees assault and does nothing — caught on film.
Candidate tells Catholics that they have “religious freedom” but shouldn’t work in an Emergency Room if they want to actually exercise it — caught on tape.
It would seem that SOMEONE could make a couple of good commercials out of these….
January 14th, 2010 | 8:17 pm | #3
[...] more: GAME-CHANGER—Martha Coakley: Devout Catholics “Probably Shouldn’t Work in the Emer… [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 8:21 pm | #4
Well then, with my ‘Religious Freedom’ maybe I shouldn’t be having my Tax Dollars going to fund Abortion in the National Health Care Bill too.
Just sayin’ since Coakley points out the ‘Church and State’ thingy.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:23 pm | #5
[...] Updates at Gateway Pundit. [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 8:23 pm | #6
Is she trying to lose. Alienate sports fans. Check. Alienate catholics. Check. Energize conservatives check.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:23 pm | #7
they perform abortions in emergency rooms?
January 14th, 2010 | 8:24 pm | #8
Watch what happens when REAL Catholic hospitals decide to CLOSE over the abortion issue. Booyah!
January 14th, 2010 | 8:33 pm | #9
Is she for real?
Are Mass. people listening to this nitwit?
Americans should be scared. Very scared. Democrats = idiots
I would be so embarrassed to call myself a Democrat.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:34 pm | #10
First of all comes the declaration I am a Catholic who attends church.
Now for my commentary on what Coakley thinks:
1. The woman does not understand the meaning of separation of church and state. Her response is a classic fail. To understand the real meaning (something it seems that your Supreme Court does not understand at all) you have to look at the intent of the framers of your Constitution. In other words the events that led people to emigrate to the New World. In the society that they left behind in GB and Europe there was no separation of church and state, and the state determined your religion. This is best explained by looking at the Roman Empire where the emperor had been considered as a god, and people were forced to worship the emperor – which Christians refused to do and were persecuted. The other example comes from Great Britain where the King of England determined the state religion thus when Henry VIII ceded from the Church in Rome he declared himself head of the Church of England and those who did not conform were persecuted suffering an extreme form of punishment (off with his head). This was repeated by Mary and then Elizabeth followed by the Puritans.
In other words what your constitution is about is not freedom from religion, but freedom of religion. This means that no single denomination or religion will be the state religion. To clarify this means that Islam and Sharia would be unconstitutional in the USA because that would be imposing a religion upon all members of the society which is in fact how this should be read.
2. Martha says that Catholics and others who believe the same should not be working in the emergency room if they are anti-abortion. It seems that Martha Coakley is not aware of the law of contract which exists and is upheld by Scott Brown (at least my interpretation of what he supports). From what I understand, any doctor or nurse who does not support abortion at the time they are employed by the hospital can have an agreement where this is acknowledged. This is a binding agreement between the hospital board and the staff member.
Also, most doctors and nurses would agree that there are medical emergencies where it might be necessary to do a procedure that would end the life of an unborn infant. For example in the case of eclampsia I am sure that such staff will make an informed decision on the strategy that is required to ensure the mother does not die. If the eclampsia happens at an early stage of the pregnancy then the loss of the baby is one of the consequences in saving the mother’s life, but if it is in a later stage, then there is no excuse for not offering a caesarian operation to the mother, if at all possible to save the baby’s life.
What Coakley is really saying here is that it is ok to force Catholic hospitals to hand out “the morning after pill” and to perform abortion on demand.
On the other hand the voting of Scott Brown seems to be that he accepts that hospitals should not be forced to prescribe the morning after pill, or for that matter Catholic staff should not be forced to participate in procedures that they find to be abhorrent according to the teachings of the Catholic church.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:37 pm | #11
[...] UPDATE: Coakley audio. [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 8:39 pm | #12
She is smart enough to work for Obama! He tends to pick those that don’t comprehend much as it makes Obamas teleprompter that much smarter.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:41 pm | #13
Call me cynical but…is she trying to lose the election?
January 14th, 2010 | 8:43 pm | #14
In other words she views physicians as extensions of the State, employees, etc..
Last time I checked I was a free man and not bound to the morality imposed upon me by my government.
This should be an eye opener to what this party thinks all physicians will be/should be.. defacto extensions of government imposed rules. those with morals out of line with the party will be out of a job.
Did any one else in this country go to college till they were 30 to become a puppet of their government? I do not appreciate the implication here that my government somehow “owns” my services. It is sort of like the eminent domain statutes except it applies to my profession and not my property.
Many sad things happen in emergency rooms. Those of us who are “religious” do not impose our morals on those we treat. We impose our compassion.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:44 pm | #15
Let’s see…. around 600 Catholic hospitals in the U.S. that serve nearly 90 million people a year.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor says Obama. You just won’t be able to find him any more.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:45 pm | #16
lmao Carmella (#7)
Coakley is just unable to stop being herself. It’s sad. Not that I mind, of course, I’m voting for Brown.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:46 pm | #17
Scott Brown is collecting 1 Million per day from concerned Americans. Top THAT! SEIU, DNC and DSCC!
January 14th, 2010 | 8:46 pm | #18
This woman is clearly too stupid to breathe. OK, MA, it is on. If you vote this mind numb robot in, you will never get her out until she chooses assisted suicide.
For God’s sake, do everything in your power to defeat her.
January 14th, 2010 | 8:48 pm | #19
BWAHAHAHAHA!
SHE’S FREAKIN GAFFETASTIC!
RANKED ON FENWAY FANS AND NOW THE RC CHURCH! SAID THERE WERE NO AL Q IN AFGHANISTAN.
SHEESH.
I KNOW WHY OBAMA WANTS HER IN DC:
SHE’LL MAKE BIDEN LOOK SMART!
January 14th, 2010 | 8:50 pm | #20
++
how do you spell Coakley??
D-U-M-B-E
:D
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January 14th, 2010 | 8:53 pm | #21
[...] This candidate has some serious foot-in-mouth disease, to go along with her radical pro-abortion stance. See the story here. [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 8:57 pm | #22
There needs to be a Mardi Gras SNAKE-FLAG fest of outraged American Patriots taking over the streets of Massachusetts on Jan. 19-20!
Ok…who is in charge of organizing this event?
January 14th, 2010 | 9:03 pm | #23
err..umm…isn’t there a famous catholic family from
MassachusettesMassachusetts? Uhh…begins with a “K” and ends in “ennedy”. It’ll come to me…January 14th, 2010 | 9:04 pm | #24
Two questions – Has she paid her taxes? If not, she can qualify for the Obama administration after she looses.
If she joins the Obama administration, she may challenge Joe Biden for VP since her gafmeter is also off the charts.
Obama would never want a competent person as second in command. So many to choose …. so little time (2012).
January 14th, 2010 | 9:04 pm | #25
Freedom of religion isn’t freedom from religion….when will the left learn? Never mind–left learn, that was an oxymoron.
January 14th, 2010 | 9:05 pm | #26
i always ask my doctor if he/she is a devout catholic, and if they oppose abortion before i allow them to perform delicate procedures on me . . . they haven’t hurt me yet! that would be a good question to ask robin carnahan, and claire mc caskill. russ wouldn’t understand the question, but you can learn a lot about russ by his snarl, and that vacant look he sports!
January 14th, 2010 | 9:05 pm | #27
Let’s all take a deep breath. This is a state that continues to re-elect John F-ing Kerry. They will elect any piece of crap that has a D next to it, I fear. Hope I’m wrong.
January 14th, 2010 | 9:06 pm | #28
End of life counseling?
January 14th, 2010 | 9:08 pm | #29
Abortions are often performed in ER’s
Does this woman think, or is that where she had her abortion?
January 14th, 2010 | 9:16 pm | #30
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Mad_as_H @ 9:06 pm #28
re: [End of life counseling?]
just a sample:
“5 freedoms you’d lose in health care reform”
[Obamacare would also apparently restrict resources for end-of-life care for the elderly, and mandate wasteful end-of-life counseling for the elderly (such as lecturing them about the right to hasten their own death by refusing nutrition).]
links @ link..
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January 14th, 2010 | 9:16 pm | #31
Please there are plenty of idiot leftists in Mass which will happily march to the polls and elect this disaster of a person for the “Kennedy” seat.
Never underestimate the stupidity of a New England liberal and their love of drunken, idiot elites who treat them like public urinals.
Only a Haiti-like disaster would keep these idiots from turning out en masse to show their asses to the nation.
January 14th, 2010 | 9:19 pm | #32
Warning to Massachussetts residents:
In 2006, Missouri elected a moron named Claire McCaskill.
We’ll be living with that mistake until 2012.
Choose wisely, and remember: Elections have consequences.
January 14th, 2010 | 9:19 pm | #33
Who does she think she is; The Queen of England?
a Roman Catholic is specifically excluded”
http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/Successionandprecedence/Succession/Overview.aspx
January 14th, 2010 | 9:20 pm | #34
For the love of God, people of Massachusetts: do you really want this woman as your Senator?
http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=9528
January 14th, 2010 | 9:23 pm | #35
I honestly think the perfect storm is brewing. The grand archetect of the universe is aligning events to assist those who revere him. The Godless Lefties, they believe in government as thier god not the true creator. If you belive in nothing you’ll believe in anything. We surround them and this is gonna get nasty. Powder is dry.
January 14th, 2010 | 9:24 pm | #36
Brown Up 4 In Suffolk Univ. Poll
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/01/brown-up-4-in-suffolk-univ-poll.html
January 14th, 2010 | 9:25 pm | #37
Is it just me or did Obama’s Presidency effectively come to an end? 3 year holding pattern?
January 14th, 2010 | 9:27 pm | #38
@Neoavatara
I live in Wisconsin and have that idiot Feingold as my senator….I voted against him in 06 at the age of 21 but he still won with 55% of the vote….He has the same mindset as John ‘war hero’ Kerry, Ted ‘happy hour’ Kennedy and the like….If only it were as easy to get rid of such complete idiots. At least the people of Mass–living and dead–have the chance in a week–have to wait over two more years here.
January 14th, 2010 | 9:29 pm | #39
The swimmer, Fwank, Kerry, and now Martha Terrorists-Are-Gone-From-Afghanistan Coakley
January 14th, 2010 | 9:35 pm | #40
Days left = 4 days to election time.
Tic Toc, Tic Toc.
January 14th, 2010 | 9:39 pm | #41
Seems the people are, in fact, listening to this nitwit.
Suffolk Univ. poll: Brown +4
January 14th, 2010 | 9:42 pm | #42
This just keeps on getting better. After Coakley’s comment about Scott Brown doing a meet and greet ourside Fenway Park we get this. Hey you stupid Democommies, think of January 19 in Massachusetts as batting practice.
January 14th, 2010 | 9:54 pm | #43
[...] Updates at Gateway Pundit. [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 9:55 pm | #44
So, we can have our freedom of religion, but not our freedom of conscience. Has any government ever endorsed a policy of forcible abortion for both victim and medical provider outside of Nazi Germany and China? You’re in great company Democrats! Congratulations!
January 14th, 2010 | 10:02 pm | #45
It is now clear WHY Coakley was not campaigning very much.
What is unclear is how she managed to get the nomination in the first place.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:06 pm | #46
If these people elect this woman then Mass. is the dumbest state in the Union…never tell Southern jokes again!
January 14th, 2010 | 10:07 pm | #47
To our friends in Massachusetts, PLEASE do whatever ya can to defeat this nimrod! Place calls, go door to door, give folks rides to the polls, etc. Me, I already gave what I could to brownforussenate.com and I’m in Illinois. Brown is what the folks in Taxsachusetts need and what America needs.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:09 pm | #48
[...] I told myself I wasn’t going to post anything on the Massachusetts Senate race today. Yet somehow, Martha Coakley continues to step in it. Today’s gaffe occurred after Princess was asked whether health care legislation should include a conscience clause to protect health care workers opposed to abortion on religious grounds. Coakley responded that “[y]ou can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn’t work in an emergency room.” [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 10:10 pm | #49
Maybe she’ll soon be getting the treatment Ben Nelson got in an Omaha pizza joint. He, his wife and dinner companions were booed out of there.
One woman even yelled, “Get him the hell out of here!”
Ace has the story. Gotta love it – it’s what they deserve and maybe the only thing that’ll wake them up.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:11 pm | #50
No wonder her campaign was on “vacation” for part of December. Their tactic was to keep her from the microphone as much as possible to protect her!
Welcome to the senate….SENATOR BROWN!
January 14th, 2010 | 10:18 pm | #51
Former Ball Player Kurt Schilling attacked Coakley for her comments about the people going to Fenway Park but another day another game changing gaff this time against Catholics.
Newt said that Rothenberg is reporting that Brown could win in Mass. Nobody has wanted to say this before but now it must be becoming obvious. Palin said — there are a lot of Dems in Mass but 1/3 of them are Moderates and moderates are not happy with Govt takeover of Healthcare.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:22 pm | #52
Candidate tells Catholics that they have “religious freedom” but shouldn’t work in an Emergency Room if they want to actually exercise it — caught on tape.
Which really means Catholics (and all religious persons) had better watch out: they may all just be forced to choose between their livelihoods and their respective faiths.
Nice move, Coakley.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:24 pm | #53
Reid is up for reelection and insists his poll numbers are great. Not so Harry! All three Republican opponents are leading.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:25 pm | #54
Wikipedia has Martha Coakley, full name Mary Martha Coakley, listed as a Roman Catholic.
O Lord, spare us another one like Teddy and John Kerry!
January 14th, 2010 | 10:27 pm | #55
Watch Congress voting on Healthcareless the night of the election when no one is paying attention, to make sure they have that place-filler vote. Tightening the shackles as fast as they can.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:28 pm | #56
Abortions are performed in ERs. Why would that happen? It is an elective procedure. Women decide to have abortions. It is not something that suddenly must be done 99.9% of the time.
This woman needs to engage brain before speaking.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:28 pm | #57
[...] Martha Coakley sez Posted in Catholicism, Christianity, Constitutional Issues, Government Ruins Everything, Hypocrisy Watch, Nanny State, Political Correctness, Religious Expression, Stupid People by Amy on January 14, 2010 Devout Catholics shouldn’t work in the emergency room. [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 10:30 pm | #58
[...] abortion and are a devout Catholic then “You probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.” Gateway Pundit posted the audio [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 10:36 pm | #59
[...] of Catholic, here’s Martha Coakley, wannabe Senator from Massachusetts saying Catholics shouldn’t work in ERs because of the separation of church and state. No conscience clause for her. Not even for [...]
January 14th, 2010 | 10:56 pm | #60
Just wait until we close our:
• 8 acute care hospitals
• 16 nursing facilities
• 19 other Catholic-sponsored service organizations including hospice, home health, assisted living, and senior housing
in Massachusetts.
January 14th, 2010 | 10:59 pm | #61
Is it me or does Coakly sound more like a prosecutor than a politician?
And to reply to archtop’s comment, the family you are referring to is Kennedy. Only they’re not Catholics. They’re Democrats.
January 14th, 2010 | 11:07 pm | #62
I didn’t know Roe vs Wade required a health care professional to violate their conscience and cause an abortion.
This idiot then goes on to bring up separation of church and state? Funny I am not a Catholic yet I use a local Catholic Hospital near were I live and I have yet to see Mass break out. Does this idiot think that a Catholic Church?
The only thing that is undergoing an abortion is the chance of this person winning.
I am pro-life but as I find on the internet you have 72 hours to take the morning after pill. Now if someone is raped they probably would be able to leave a Catholic Hospital so that you could take that pill.
AND THEY THINK SARAH PALIN IS AN IDIOT!
January 14th, 2010 | 11:21 pm | #63
Look at how the Religious Right comes out screaming about religious persecution. Yet, while Bush spent years calling Islam evil and encouraged discrimination (and worse) against Muslims, the right wing was silent. Unlike the rednecks down south, Massachusetts will elect Caokley and reject Brown because she will fight for women, gays, and minorities while Brown will do nothing but shill for the insurance companies, Big Oil, Hailburton, and Wall Street. Coakley has had a stellar and impeccable record of public service that is beyond reproach. She will win easily.
January 15th, 2010 | 12:07 am | #64
This would have been a game changer forty years ago. But now? The rate of religious practice is low among Boston Catholics. Many non-practicing Catholics are suspicious of their devout co-religionists and were catechized by dissenting teachers to look down on “absolutists.”
January 15th, 2010 | 12:20 am | #65
To: Vinny B (comment 63)
———————
It is so 1990’s to say the same ole’ tired line that: (paraphrased) “Democrats will fight for women, gays, and minorities”
This makes you sound as if you hate white guys or something.
Scott Brown will fight for ALL the people of Massachusetts, and not just for a select few minorities, or special interests. Scott is not a far-right-conservative, and is moderate on some issues. Scott will stand up for women, men, gay, and staight of all colors.
Scott Brown exudes honesty. Coakley reeks of corruption. I wished I lived in Massachusetts just to have the priviledge of voting for Scott Brown on Tuesday, but since I live in Arizona, I will have to support him as an respectful outsider and fellow American.
Remember, it was Scott Brown who said: “With all due respect…it is not the Kennedy’s seat, or the Democrat’s seat….It’s the people’s seat”.
January 15th, 2010 | 1:07 am | #66
[...] UPDATE II: Martha Coakley suggests Catholics shouldn’t work in hospitals. [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 2:47 am | #67
[...] Updates at Gateway Pundit. [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 4:04 am | #68
The myopia plagued democrat robot voters of the Bay State will likely elect Coakley. Coakley has given the country arefresher course on liberal democrats’ criminality and corruption via her outrageous statements & actions that have revealed her party’s disrespect for constitutional rights, the rule of law, prosecutorial corruption, moral degeneracy, & her state’s tradition of political decadence as well as the liberal Democrat party’s lust for constitution violating power.
Coakley’s words, deeds and her party’s actions during her campaign for the Senate have revealed to all but in those states whose inhabitants have not yet willingly surrendered their capacity to reason, belief in our nation’s political principles, and personal freedoms for a mess of socialist potage the true face of the marxist totalitarian face of the Democrat Party. And yes Massachusetts democrats you have shown the nation that your party doesn’t respect the electoral process by your party’s pols’ statements that even if elected Brown is elected you would block and delay a victorious republican from taking his seat in Washington.
January 15th, 2010 | 5:00 am | #69
[...] [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 5:38 am | #70
So, let me get this straight. In Mass. abortions are performed in emergency rooms? Really? Has Martha informed Planned Parenthood of her decree?
January 15th, 2010 | 6:05 am | #71
Are Coakley and Nifong related?
KEEP TALKING COAKLEY – galvinize the voters to elect Mr. Brown.
January 15th, 2010 | 7:46 am | #72
[...] issue on the minds of Massachusetts voters is Obama’s health care scam and Coakley is concentrating on issues which are a problem even for South Boston Catholics. Scott Brown campaigns on the issues [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 8:07 am | #73
What about the secret plea bargain deal in 2005 for Father John Geoghan? The cancer of the church? Father Jack-giving him probation, allowing him to molest more innocent children? I guess she would fit in with Kevin Jennings–and the other democrat perverts they have in office-its sick, sick. Innocent young boys, children molested and she protects a sick evil pediphile–she has no shame-non, nada, just like the rest of them they do not have any remorse NONE. Who would call themselves a democrat, today? These people in office are not democrats–there something else–a new party of social evil, corrupt. democrats were not evil they beleived in a honest fair debate–evil ahs taken over this party and they are not democrats–they ar DEMO RATS!!!
January 15th, 2010 | 9:44 am | #74
[...] Via Gateway Pundit: [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 9:47 am | #75
To Vinny B. — This week Blue Cross/Blue Shield donated over one half million dollars to the Coakley campaign. Dems always looking out for the little guy, eh?
Go Scott Brown!!!
January 15th, 2010 | 10:21 am | #76
I still can’t get this out of my head.
The mindset is stunning. Do the Democrats of Massachusetts really have this same world view? Is this who they want to speak for them?
Someone should ask her if Christians who work in the medical field would be required to wear armbands with yellow crosses on them?
We have been here before, ask your Jewish friends about it.
January 15th, 2010 | 12:20 pm | #77
[...] strike-out against Fenway Park fans. Nope; instead, she had to take it one giant leap further (h/t GatewayPundit): Democrat Martha Coakley was on with Ken Pittman from WBSM in Massachusetts [yesterday]. [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 12:36 pm | #78
[...] on religious beliefs and emergency rooms in the context of her current position. Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit has the transcript of Coakley’s statement: Ken Pittman: Right, if you are a Catholic, and [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 12:44 pm | #79
[...] Gateway Pundit) Comments [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 1:16 pm | #80
[...] the real question is… Will they be able to keep her from yammering until he gets there? Comments [...]
January 15th, 2010 | 1:20 pm | #81
[...] the real question is… Will they be able to keep her from yammering until he gets there? [...]
January 16th, 2010 | 12:11 am | #82
You can’t fix stupid. Convinced yet?
January 16th, 2010 | 12:47 pm | #83
[...] gotta be related to Joe Biden Somehow… By datechguy …there can’t be two families capable of this many [...]
January 16th, 2010 | 5:55 pm | #84
[...] Said the people with religious freedom shouldn’t work in an emergency room [...]
January 21st, 2010 | 8:41 am | #85
I only want pro life catholics working on me in the er. They are there to save life not end it.
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