The Left Ups Their Attacks on Christianity–
Leftists in the state-run media are lambasting Brit Hume for promoting Christianity on a Sunday morning talk show.
Yesterday, Hume suggested that Tiger Woods try out Christianity to help him with his infidelity problem.
This enraged the liberals and leftists.
According to democrats and liberals it is no longer acceptable to promote Christianity publicly.
Steve Benan at The Washington Monthly reported:
I was taken aback when I saw that Fox News’ Brit Hume, reflecting on Woods’ career on the air this morning, talked about whether the golfer may return to his chosen profession.
“The extent to which he can recover seems to me depends on his faith,” Hume said. “He is said to be a Buddhist. I don’t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. So, my message to Tiger is, ‘Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.”
Hume was not, as the video shows, kidding.
It’s hard to even know where to start with something like this. How many high-profile Christians have had damaging sex scandals of late? Why is Buddhism deemed inadequate for those with family problems? Why is a senior political analyst for a so-called “news” network proselytizing, on the air, during one of the network’s “news” programs?
It used to be that liberals didn’t want you to mention Christ in schools. Then they banned Christ from Christmas concerts and public squares.
Now they are demanding that we not talk about Christianity in public.
We should have seen this coming.
More Brit-bashing from Politics Daily– “Jesus can tame you, Tiger”
January 4th, 2010 | 7:46 am | #1
Brit was right on target. Christ is the only way to true forgiveness and eternal life. I just love FOX!
January 4th, 2010 | 7:58 am | #2
Only Obama can walk on water, heal thy sick and feed the masses with loaves and fishes…
The first order in setting up any Marxist dictatorship is to do away with Christ…
January 4th, 2010 | 8:02 am | #3
Is Easter here already? Jeeze. Christmas just ended and the attacks keep comin. Satan is working overtime.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:03 am | #4
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January 4th, 2010 | 8:05 am | #5
Good for Brit Hume. There are many examples of athletes who’ve been sustained by their Christian faith. I would make the same recommendation to Obama but I think he would get the message of turning the other cheek and little else.
I think it will be very hard for Tiger Woods to get past this debacle if he is not doing what he loves most and is best at. He is going to endure public humiliation when he re-enters public life but he will receive a lot of encouragement from people who wish to make a public display of their compassion.
My recommendation to Tiger Woods is that he call a press conference to announce that he is immediately returning to the PGA Tour and is determined to lead a less selfish life.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:05 am | #6
Score ONE for the Britster!
I love it when vicious liberal scumbags (I repeat myself again) get their tighty-whiteys in a bunch over the TRUTH.
New Years Resolution: Annoy liberal daily!
January 4th, 2010 | 8:06 am | #7
Hume, of course, will simply ignore them all and continue to do what Brit Hume does so well – tell it like it is.
They won’t even get a rise out of Hume. They should have waited for a weak target. Hume is not weak.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:09 am | #8
“I don’t understand. You don’t have a problem with God, do you?”
Now where, oh where, have I heard that before?
Seems it was a local news interview (somewhere) with an auto salesman.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:30 am | #9
I have a much better idea, lets have a pogrom against the liberal-progressives! For all intents and purposes they’re an ethnic group, haters of all humanity and civilization so pogrom is the correct term.
The environmentalists and liberals all think that there are to many people walking the face of the earth – yet they ALL refuse to volunteer themselves for disenfranchisement. Why not just appoint them as inheritors of Darwin’s natural selection process – that would definitely take care of any hypocrisy they might be displaying concerning one of their major god figures (the infamous Charles Darwin).
January 4th, 2010 | 8:37 am | #10
I was astonished when I heard that the head of the “fair and balanced” NEWS portion of FOX News Network suggested that someone not only “accept Jesus” but that his current religion was inferior to Christianity and should, therefore, be REJECTED.
Shame on him.
Is it even possible to list/name all the “Christians” who have engaged in infidelity all the while attending church? Good thing they were/are “Christians” so that they can be so easily “forgiven…”
We don’t know a lot of things about Tiger’s behavior. Further, we don’t know a lot of things about his WIFE’s behavior. It could easily be argued that his wife KNEW about his behavior and ACCEPTED his behavior so long as he was DISCREET. This type of “partnership/marriage” is not uncommon. Certainly, it is hard to believe that she didn’t know what was going on. The fact that she didn’t blow up until it was on the verge of going public militates towards the “keep it discreet” paradigm (as does the fact that the first thing she did after the story broke was to call in the LAWYERS to “re-negotiate” her pre-nup into a more lucrative “post-nup.”)
So, we don’t even KNOW that there’s anything to be “forgiven” in the first place.
But, to say that becoming a “Christian” is the only path to forgiveness is outrageous.
“Forgiveness” by WHOM? His wife? The public? Himself? The universe? GOD?
What a load of proselytizing crud. As a fan of FOX news, I’m appalled that one of its heavy hitting symbols of “objective reporting” decided to proselytize in such a fashion. (I have no problem with him doing so in private, or even in some other public venue. He’s as entitled to his views as much as anyone…but this was on the NEWS for cripe’s sake…)
January 4th, 2010 | 8:39 am | #11
Frankly, I disagree with Brit. He should not be proselytizing. My spiritual master told me never to discourage anyone who had “faith”. What you do is you end up destroying the person’s possibly only asset. Seems to me Tiger has more of a psychiatric problem, rather than one of faith. Buddhism seems to have worked very well for the Dalai Lama. I am not, BTW, Buddhist.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:46 am | #12
Liberals problem in a nut shell.
If you don’t believe in GOD, you’ll believe anything.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:46 am | #13
“Shame on him.”
wow Huey, you are some ‘holy’ with all your moral indignation.
And another thing, your ‘keep it discreet’ is quite telling; are you the cheater or is your partner the cheater.
Or are you the lone loser because everyone you know knows you to be a cheater and a liar?
Listen Sweetie, you don’t know me so STFU.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:54 am | #14
“Buddhism seems to have worked very well for the Dalai Lama”
The easy thing about being a Buddhist is that GLBT will never get in front of Buddhist temple protesting their hatred for the Dalia Lama beliefs against homosexuality.
Ironically, the Buddhist position against homosexuality is the same as Islam as it is Christianity.
Fascinating how the Do-gooders pick and choose what is moral and what is not.
According to Do-gooders Pope Pelosi and the Bishops Kennedy are more morally righteous than whatever comes out of the Vatican.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:54 am | #15
Hmm…did the liberals criticize Buddism when Tiger proved to be “a high profile” failure to his religion? That’s what I thought. Christians are the only people held to any standard by the liberal media. So all you people who don’t agree with Hume, go suck a hot hotchie! You have double standards, and you show it.
January 4th, 2010 | 8:55 am | #16
Bobbi
January 4th, 2010 | 8:39 am | #11
RE: “My spiritual master told me never to discourage anyone who had “faith”….Buddhism seems to have worked very well for the Dalai Lama.”
LOL That sarcastic crack about the Dalai Lama is great! Yup, he’s doing great in his robes and mansions – Buddhism is working EXTREMELY well for him! Kind of like ‘global warming’ is working out very good for Al Gore, the inventor of the Internet! LOL
BTW, who is your ‘spiritual master’? Is it your lower bowel? It sounds as if you might be suffering from oxygen deprivation due to your windpipe being compressed via your bung hole!
January 4th, 2010 | 8:56 am | #17
Hoooray for Brit! As long as we have people like him who aren’t afraid to speak up about Christ, there is hope for US! All you who get your panties in a bunch, breathe into a paper bag.
I can’t get excited when someone wants to talk about Buddha or Druids, witches or those who want to worship trees or atheists. I can’t even get bent over muslims PEACEFULLY worshipping their god. That’s the neat thing about a country founded on religious freedom. I do get rabid abour muslims using their faith to kill people.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:02 am | #18
JamesDoulos
January 4th, 2010 | 8:55 am | #16
Oh, lest you misunderstood me Bobbi, about my last comment concerning your ‘spiritual master’ being your lower bowel – I wasn’t commenting upon your sexual preference’s, although that may be true also. Don’t tell me – I don’t want to know!
January 4th, 2010 | 9:02 am | #19
humm.. wonder what this progressive Steve Benan was doing watching this so-called “news’ network. Liberals can get fired for this type of treasonous behavior.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:03 am | #20
Speaking of ‘proselytizing’
The Do-gooders are the world’s greatest proselytizers from proselyting free government heath care to being against a war to remove a mass-murdering tyrant to Thanking God for abortion to starving human beings will save a tree to instructing children how to shove a fist up another human being’s anal cavity etc etc.
Do-gooders: the PROSELYTIZERS of the Temple of Evil Empires.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:04 am | #21
Touchy, touchy. Why so offended?
January 4th, 2010 | 9:08 am | #22
Brit comes across with the true Christian spirit of love. He is witnessing for his faith in a most beautiful way, reaching out to a fellow man to save his soul and steady his walk here on earth.
Well done, Brit. Well done.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:11 am | #23
First of all, Hume offered this advice during the FNS All Star Panel opinion segment. So the charge that he is abusing his journalistic integrity is incorrect.
Secondly, the old ruse that Christianity is a failed belief system because we can see plenty of fallen Christians who are guilty of infidelity is very tired. No one ever claimed that all Christians are perfect. We are sinners. Hume was opining that if he wants to redeem himself, Woods’ Buddhist faith is probably inadequate and Christ is the straight path toward redemption, not only with the Lord, but with the American public, as well.
Of course, the Christian-hating left and lame-stream media cannot see that because their vision is so clouded with pride.
Hume is a smart guy. When he’d said this, he knew full well what the reaction would be from certain corners. I’m sure he welcomes the discussion,.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:15 am | #24
Tiger Woods had no problem taking the Lord’s name in vain on the golf course.
Maybe he can start swearing the name of his Buddha, Siddartha Gautama, since he does not believe in the true God.
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January 4th, 2010 | 9:27 am | #25
Is Huey really so stupid that he is unable to distinguish the OP-ED part of the show from the NEWS reporting?
Those folks were expressing their OPINIONS. Were you outraged when Bill Kristol said he thought the regime in Iran will fall this year? Maybe it will, maybe not. It’s his OPINION. Were you beside yourself when Juan Williams said it was his OPINION that unemployment will be 8% by the November elections?
It is Brit Hume’s OPINION that christianity is more forgiving than Buddism.
Get a clue.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:32 am | #26
Speaking of proselytizers, the left doesn’t seem to have a problem with Kevin Jennings.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:38 am | #27
Both Elizabeth and Scott (#22,#23) have expressed my thoughts better than I ever could.
I’ll only add that Tiger’s finding redemption through Christ might serve as an incredible example to others who are struggling to find their own way back from a fall.
If anything could surpass his achievements on the golf course, that would be it, in my book.
My heart and prayers are with Tiger and his family. And with others who are searching for forgiveness as well.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:52 am | #28
I have to say, Brit’s comments stopped me dead in my tracks.. not because of their content but because it’s been a long time since a public man,held,I believe, in high regard by both political parties for his integrity and steady hand on issues, spoke frankly about his faith and its redemptive power to heal… the morning moment’s power emerged from the power of Brit, the man, expressing in plain words a universal truth:faith can save us from ourselves.. the synergy between the man and the message showed so well.. the lefties and libs can whine away.. Brit’s message went across the airwaves seamlessly and hit their mark.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:54 am | #29
Thank you Brit Hume for having the spine to stand up for America’s values! Christian America is finally waking up. This country dosen’t belong to Islam or any other twisted mindset – DEAL WITH IT.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:55 am | #30
No, I am afraid Brit was in error.
Christianity is simply incapable of providing the transcendence that Tiger needs; Tiger and many others would be much more at peace if they were to acknowledge the truth that is Gaia, the Goddess.
Not to get everyone upset, but it seems inescapable that paganism is much more conducive to personal healing than Christianity.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:59 am | #31
#23, well said.
The big concern for us all is that they are trying to make it seem unacceptable (and, I think, soon to be illegal) to express faith publically….at least the Christian faith.Look out for new broadcasting legislation in our near future.
We have allowed this to escalate over the years in the name of political correctness, and now we are paying. We’ve got to stand up strong now before it’s too late.
January 4th, 2010 | 9:59 am | #32
My, my. Why do heathens rage and protest so strongly when Our Lord is brought into the public square?
But we all know the answer to that, don’t we?
January 4th, 2010 | 10:03 am | #33
Good for Brit! It’s about time we Christians started standing up for ourselves despite what others think.
It’s also rather telling that non-believers in the MSM are so insistant to be heard, but don’t want Christians to be heard. Nice double standard ya got there.
I feel sorry for Tiger. He’s obviously struggling with his addiction from which he can no longer hide. Hopefully, he’ll take the good-natured advice from Brit Hume and allow God to help him.
January 4th, 2010 | 10:05 am | #34
Boy, the COMMUNISTS, really hate Christianity, don’t they. I have a piece of advice for you COMMUNISTS in the COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA networks, don’t watch or listen if you don’t like it! We’ve had it with you, and we are going to do everything in our power to put you out of business! Maybe you can join all of the other unemployed, caused by your MARXIST PRESIDENT OBAMA!
January 4th, 2010 | 10:17 am | #35
Robb76,
Yes. We do.
January 4th, 2010 | 10:23 am | #36
They needed Christopher Hitchens on the other side to remain “Fair and Balanced.”
January 4th, 2010 | 10:25 am | #37
What if Brit said for Tiger to turn to Islam? What you all be saying then?
January 4th, 2010 | 10:34 am | #38
Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried. G.K. Chesterton
January 4th, 2010 | 10:36 am | #39
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” Jesus
January 4th, 2010 | 10:41 am | #40
Someone should tell the libs about the Islamification of prisoners in the prisons. Oh, wait. It’s the separation of church and state, not mosque and state.
January 4th, 2010 | 10:43 am | #41
Right, and didn’t we all get non stop coverage of Bill Clinton and his special prayer meetings a the WH with Jesse, Sunday morning video of Bill and Hillary cluching their bibles…blabla…liberals are are full of it
January 4th, 2010 | 10:48 am | #42
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January 4th, 2010 | 10:57 am | #43
The notion that it is acceptable for the senior political analyst of FOX News to tell an American Citizen that his chosen religion is INFERIOR to Christianity is outrageous.
Is he on a pulpit? Is he a religious leader? Is he a spokesman for Christianity (of whatever persuasion)?
No.
He is the Senior Political Analyst of FOX News, speaking on FOX News Channel who CHOSE to inject RELIGION into the conversation. In doing so, he opined that ONLY his religion provided the answer he believed that Tiger needed.
Not Islam.
Not Buddhism.
Not Hinduism.
Not Judaism.
ONLY Christianity. Only accepting the divinity of Jesus will result in the forgiveness that Hume believes Tiger needs. Somehow, none of the rest of the world’s religions can provide this answer — regardless of the age of those religions and the billions of adherents they command.
Only Christianity.
It is this arrogance of belief which has caused so many travails over the centuries — the notion that MY truth is superior to YOUR truth.
It is when this arrogance of belief is coupled with a willingness to forcibly convert others to the “superior truth” that we have, well, what we have today as Islamofacists try to convert the world to their superior truth.
(To those who would twist this to convey an implication that Hume is comparable to Islamsfacists…yawn… I’m a fan of Hume. I just think that it is outrageous that he would say such a thing.)
I’m a conservative atheist. (Yeah, some believe this to be an oxymoron. Can’t help that. Some believe that their truth is THE truth. Can’t help that either.)
I don’t have any problem with Hume being a Christian. (Just as I wouldn’t have any problem with him being Islamic or a Mormon (which I assert isn’t a “Christian” religion.) I almost envy him his certitude of faith. (It has been said that atheists visit upon themselves their punishment.)
But, I don’t SHARE that certitude of belief.
Islamics don’t SHARE that certitude of belief.
Buddhists don’t SHARE that certitude of belief.
Anyone who doesn’t SHARE that certitude of belief would be OFFENDED (especially Buddhists) by the notion that ONLY Christianity (of whatever and unstated kind Hume practices) would offer the “forgiveness” that Hume believes Tiger needs.
Sigh.
January 4th, 2010 | 11:04 am | #44
I am a Christian, but if one is going to posit Christianity as superior to Buddhism, then one should at the very least know what they are talking about. I am not sure that Brit Hume does. For one Buddhist perspective, read this:
http://buddhism.about.com/b/2010/01/04/lets-forgive-brit-hume.htm
January 4th, 2010 | 11:05 am | #45
But, I don’t SHARE that certitude of belief———————-
Sigh. It’s not about YOU.
Atheists are so boring, and unable to accept the fact that people, even Opinion/Editorial types, are allowed opinions.
Bill Kristol is a Jew. Had he suggested that Tiger, the fad religion follower, embrace Judaism, who would care?
Christianity’s mention throws holy water on the vampires. Listen to them sizzle!
January 4th, 2010 | 11:07 am | #46
Are you really that stupid? If I’m going to screw around, as so many evangelicals have been caught doing lately, I’m instantly forgiven, and I can go out and do it again with a clean slate? Here’s a fact. As a 68 year old athiest who keeps himself in super shape, I get my share of hit-ons. But I adopted a radical approach many years ago, I don’t lie. Been a tough way to go, but I’ve never cheated on my wife. Unfortunately so many republicans could never live under that simple agenda. Lying is what these people do best. You may excuse them by saying they are ‘forgiven’, you can never excuse their lack of character and integrity. You can scream your phoney religious horse pucky, but all you do is identify what a failure it is, and you are.
January 4th, 2010 | 11:08 am | #47
Keep it up Libs–everytime you attack Church going people more of those people will come out and vote Republican. With the economic problems this nation has turning to God may be all we have left cause the self-proclaimed Messiah is only making things worse.
January 4th, 2010 | 11:17 am | #48
What is sin? Oh, I see, you atheists decide. Cheating and lying are sinful…until you decide they’re not.
You are such good people. Not like the fallen Christians who acknowledge their sins and repent.
Remember: it’s not the number of times you fall down, it’s the number of times you get up.
The problem with atheists is, you guys don’t realize that you’re down.
January 4th, 2010 | 11:34 am | #49
Huey, Brit was expressing an opinion. In my view, the correct opinion.
And it was an expresssion that took courage. You don’t think that he knew outrage would be coming from the MSM and agnostics and atheists who seem to think that they are the only ones who can rule thought and expression? Of course, he knew that. Yet, he said it.
That my friends (believes and non-believers) is a snapshot of courage.
If we Christians (those who live it in thought, word and deeds) live with that kind of courage, we could make a difference in the way our country is turning. Let’s face it . . . political correctness got us where we are today. With an amateur in the WH and loons in Congress.
January 4th, 2010 | 11:34 am | #50
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ht RG
this speaks for itself..
pass it on!!
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January 4th, 2010 | 11:37 am | #51
John in the Land of Louis
January 4th, 2010 | 10:25 am | #37
What if Brit said for Tiger to turn to Islam? What you all be saying then?
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We all be saying that there’s enough of that crap going around already.
Why? What did you think we’d say, fool?
January 4th, 2010 | 11:45 am | #52
bg, that video at #50 is awesome . . . it must go viral. I am so glad I am at home. I am crying like a baby. That is what the world needs. Christian love!
January 4th, 2010 | 11:48 am | #53
Huey
January 4th, 2010 | 10:57 am | #43
It was on an OPINION show, huey. Now unwad your panties and get over it.
Obviously, Brit doesn’t really care if you and the rest of the non-Christian world are/were offended by his expression of his belief.
When asked for his OPINION, he gave it – honestly.
Are you suggesting that OPINIONS now be tempered to fit your definition of what might or might not be offensive to some group or another? Wouldn’t that sort of be like “bending to political correctness”You might consider joining up with the democRATS. They just loooove all the politically correct crap.
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He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
—Thomas Paine
January 4th, 2010 | 11:53 am | #54
jimbo
January 4th, 2010 | 11:07 am | #46
If Republicans do so much lying – why are all of the democRATS getting caught in lies?
You leftists would rather climb a tree to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.
Go peddle your crap elsewhere. You’re a fool and a parrot.
January 4th, 2010 | 11:56 am | #55
Now if a Muslim called Tiger Woods to Islam, the leftards wouldn’t have said a thing.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:02 pm | #56
bg
January 4th, 2010 | 11:34 am | #50
Thank you!
January 4th, 2010 | 12:08 pm | #57
First off, atheism is proselytizing every single day on the air and in everyone’s lives. You can’t use the word ‘Christmas’ because it offends the atheists, but when the word ‘Christmas’ isn’t used you are catering to the religion of atheism. Atheists want it their way, every day.
I just love it when people refer to themselves as ‘Christians’, but then do not stand behind their own religion. Ever heard of the Commandment – ‘Do not take the name of the Lord in vain.’ Do not claim to be a Christian, when you do not do the works thereof.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:14 pm | #58
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The History of Political Correctness
can you say GLSEN??
yes you can!!
can you say anti-Christianity??
yes you can!!
can you say assault on Traditional Values??
yes you can!!
can you say assault on Traditional Western Culture??
yes you can!!
can you say Marxism??
yes you can!!
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January 4th, 2010 | 12:21 pm | #59
That was a great video bg @ #50. How hard is it to be kind anyhow; this world needs a whole lot of love.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:24 pm | #60
If you have studied the Bible very much, you know that attacks are to be expected. It will get worse as we head more and more to a liberal, left leaning society. At some point, we will be persecuted more fully and will at some point be forced to go underground like they did during the formation of the early church.
It is coming. Just didn’t think I would see so many signs in my lifetime. I am concerned for the small children in my family. It is going to be so much worse for them.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:24 pm | #61
Go peddle your crap elsewhere. You’re a fool and a parrot
Ah, but he is a “shapely and desirable” parrot.
Just ask him.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:24 pm | #62
Isn’t it interesting that the posters who are offended at Brit’s remarks are all atheists and not Buddhists.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:25 pm | #63
There are plenty of reasons why Hume’s “come to Jesus” comments were silly (and arrogant and closed-minded and ridiculous and unprofessional); however, the chief problem is that they are untrue. There is a path to foregiveness and redemption in the Buddhist faith. It begins with making amends and self-awareness — two concepts that are apparently foreign to Hume or anyone who pimps on the FoxSnooze channel.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:26 pm | #64
jimbo said “… Unfortunately so many republicans could never live under that simple agenda.”
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Nothing like painting with a broad brush, eh?
So. Feel good about yourself?
Excuse me if I don’t feel a thing for your pompousness.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:27 pm | #65
Once again it is Proven Absolutly.
Truth to a Liberal is Like Holy Water to a Vampire.
Bret is Correct. Tiger has an opportunity to make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.
It Depends if Tiger wants to worship Cows (Budist), Sever Heads (Muslims) or Love & Be Loved (Christianity).
January 4th, 2010 | 12:30 pm | #66
jimbo – you know a Christian by their works, not their words. Many people claim to be Christians, but they are far from it. If you had any understanding of Christianity or of its teachings, you would know the Bible speaks of these people.
Now Christians who stumble and fall, well, God does forgive those people when they ask for forgiveness and turn from their sins. It isn’t easy to be a Christian these days, with everything that goes against the teachings of the Bible are being forced down your throat daily, but the strong will persevere.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:31 pm | #67
A question for Mr. Hoft:
Would you be as quick to defend this if Mr. Hume were a Muslim and were urging Tiger to find “salvation” in Islam?
Just curious.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:32 pm | #68
Talk all you want about Christianity. Just don’t consider “talking about Christianity” the equivalent of making idiotic remarks about Buddhism and Buddhists won’t complain.
What is it, you don’t want discussions about Buddhism in the public square? Isn’t that religious bigotry?
January 4th, 2010 | 12:33 pm | #69
Of course it was Brit’s “opinion.”
But, that’s the point, isn’t it?
It is his opinion that 1) Tiger needs “forgiveness.” (It isn’t apparent from his remarks from whom that “forgiveness” is needed or which of his actions require “forgiveness”, just that it is needed.); 2) That Tiger’s chosen religion doesn’t provide that which Britt has decided that Tiger needs; 3) That, therefore, Tiger should discard his chosen (and inferior) religion for Christianity.
As noted above (with link) Hume clearly isn’t up on his Buddhism or he wouldn’t have made such an ignorant remark. (Read the link…do some research on Buddhism…)
But, more importantly, it is simple arrogance that provided the impetus for this remark, the arrogance that HE knows THE ANSWER and his answer (the TRUTH) is the ONLY answer — every other “answer” either wrong or incomplete.
Again, I have no problem with Hume’s religious beliefs (whatever they are — it is an assumption that any person who advocates another to abandon his religion for Christianity is a Christian of some denomination, but only that). I just find the arrogance of the remarks — remarkable.
(For the person who remarked that atheists self-define “sin” as they choose, you miss the mark. As an atheist, I deny “sin” in the first place as “sinning” is acting against the will of a God I deny exists. I do believe in “right” and “wrong,” however, and one of the things I believe to be “wrong” is the belief that any mortal has discovered the ultimate meaning of life, the universe, and everything… I just believe that “right” and “wrong” are outgrowths of the human experience rather than handed down from above or as an effect of “Natural Law.” By the same token, I don’t believe that I know the answer to “life, the universe, and everything” and respect any person’s search for their own truth so long as they don’t attempt to force it upon me.)
January 4th, 2010 | 12:34 pm | #70
Brit was being utterly arrogant in his suggestion… and seriously… Christians are immune to infidelity? C’mon get a grip.
And “Christopher” – Buddhists don’t “worship cows”… I’ll presume you were thinking of Hindus (and wrong there as well) is it asking sooo much to be actually informed about something before pontificating?
January 4th, 2010 | 12:37 pm | #71
Huey – no one is forcing you to become a Christian; although, atheists certainly seem to believe everyone should conduct themselves as an atheist, at least in public. Personally, I’m sick of atheists shoving their religion down the throats of everyone else, under the assumption that atheism isn’t a religion at all. If you don’t want Christians to speak about their religion, then do not speak about yours.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:38 pm | #72
bg.. great, just great.. thanks.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:38 pm | #73
Everybody knows that Christians aren’t perfect, just forgiven. Non-Christians aren’t perfect, and will burn in hell.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:40 pm | #74
Brit was only saying what a lot of people were thinking.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:41 pm | #75
I am a Christian, and I believe the Word of God to be the truth……why else would I believe it?
Who believes in a religion and doesn’t believe it to be the truth? Atheists are the most hardcore believers of their religion…..and they constantly ridicule, especially Christians, about their beliefs.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:41 pm | #76
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re: bg @ 12:14 pm #58
note the NOI Black Panthers @ the 20:10 mark..
i’m also betting Stanley Ann Dunham was there marching..
[Barack Obama referred to his mother as ‘the dominant figure in my formative years… The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics.‘
[.. ]
When Ann Dunham arrived in Hawaii , she was a full
fledged radical leftist and practitioner of critical theory.]
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January 4th, 2010 | 12:54 pm | #77
Who cares if the liberals are pissed off?….Dont even give them the satisfaction of giving any sort of importance to their claim of being taken aback…..Let them get knocked on their asses by the “shock” at the promotion of Christianity.
It they dont like it ….they dont have to watch Fox…Im sure they will find an abundance of “reporting” sterilized free of any mention of religion, and political correctness to their heart’s content on MSNBC..let them watch THAT garbage. The best thing to do is just to keep doing what Brit is doing…..exercise your free speech, as long as your employer is okay with it, at least while your on their time.
Afterall, there is nothing that infuriates but unarms an opponent better than treating them with absolute indifference, and as if they are utterly insignificant….in other words the truth.
January 4th, 2010 | 12:54 pm | #78
I tend to agree that many atheists are radical and want (especially in publicly funded places) there to be no vestiges of religion of any sort.
Personally, I think this is not only wrong, but wrong-headed. Religion is the fundament of any society, usually a shared belief in our place in the universe.
While there is indisputably an historical record of the ills of state-sanctioned action (wars) in the name of state-sanctioned religion (and continues to be a growing historical record of such), this small group of radical atheists completely disregard the good that religion works in society to concentrate on the evil that religious fanatics visit on society.
But, it’s a small group of well-financed anti-religious fanatics that works this ill, just as it’s a small group of leftist fanatics, or environmental fanatics, or global warming fanatics — all “true believers” — who work this ill, which, if “strict constructionist” Supreme Court Justices were on the bench, would have little effect.
I know that no one here is attempting to force any religion down my throat, and, frankly, I have seldom had any truly religious person attempt to do so, leaving me to choose my own path. In this country, that is as it should be. I also understand that Hume wasn’t attempting to force his religion down Tiger’s throat.
That wasn’t what I said, nor is it what anyone said.
I just said that his remarks were arrogant and ignorant and inappropriate for the Senior Political Analyst for FOX News to say on national television.
I guess that if you believe it is appropriate for anyone to tell another that they should abandon their religious beliefs for another in any context other than a religious setting, that’s on you.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:09 pm | #79
Yeah, right, Bo. Whatever.
Non-Christians love telling Christians they are wrong. However, visa-versa doesn’t work for them.
Tough. Get used to, Bo.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:10 pm | #80
You don’t have to be an atheist to see that Brit Hume was obviously wrong here. Not in bringing up his own religious faith – there’s nothing wrong with that. If he had talked about his own life, and his own experience as a Christian – things he knows about – then that would be entirely appropriate. Maybe even valuable.
But that’s not what he did. He went farther. Why is he telling Tiger Woods what to do? And where does he get off, stating flatly that Tiger needs to convert, in order to find forgiveness, because Tiger’s own religion can’t offer that?
Does he even know Tiger Woods? Does he have the foggiest idea about the Buddhist faith, or Tiger’s own experience of it?
Sorry folks, but nobody is objecting to Brit being a Christian, or talking about his own Christian faith. This is about Brit being totally presumptuous, ignorant, and arrogant – pushing his own religious beliefs upon someone who he doesn’t know, and whose existing beliefs he doesn’t understand or care to understand.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:15 pm | #81
Although not stated as such, I’m assuming Brit is coming from a place of personal belief and experience. I’m assuming Brit could easily add a qualifiers of the following nature: “It has worked for me.” Or, “I know Jesus Christ, He lives with-in me. I am compelled to tell you about Him.”
It is quite an honorable moment when one human-being shares with another, “This my friend, is how I am attempting to live life. I share with you now, only to help you.”
Whether we are communicating with a whispered suggestion, or a rant, whether it be pro or against atheism, statism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, or “keep-private-yet-open-to-all” -ism, we must recognize that we are simply crossing the divide from one to another.
The comments are the best part of blogs. The diversity of opinion provides a great and concise circumscribing education. You do learn to read past the “clenched fist,” the offenses taken, and the offenses given.
The story is of interest because it “lifts the lid” on the tension that exist between the Christian and the Statist (who seem quite careless with regulation). The story also “lifts the lid” on the tension that exist between Christianity and other core belief systems, aka other religions.
An ignorant but “no longer blind” man once said; “One thing I do know. I was blind but now I see!” (John 9:25)
Jesus Christ healed this man. Jesus Christ dwells within me, guides my heart, and heals me daily. Given the opportunity to talk with Tiger Woods – out of nothing but love and compassion for him – I would attempt to discuss Jesus Christ with him. Why? Because that’s just how powerful He is.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:22 pm | #82
Frankly, I don’t particularly care what Mr. Hume said, mostly because I would never watch FOX news with the expectation or belief that I was watching anything other than conservative propaganda anyway, but I do have to wonder whatever happened to journalistic objectivity or integrity? If it was his opinion, that’s fine, but sort of weird to be discussing one’s religion on a political news commentary show. Since when is religion supposed to be this badge that people wear on their chest in public?
On a more personal note, Hume’s remarks themselves were ignorant in the sense that they display a lack of knowledge about basic concepts of Buddhism, and arrogant in the sense that they assert a religious superiority that clearly isn’t even based on an informed analysis of the tenets of either religion that he was comparing. But that’s okay, because BOTH Jesus and the Buddha will forgive you Brit!
January 4th, 2010 | 1:22 pm | #83
I just said that his remarks were arrogant and ignorant and inappropriate for the Senior Political Analyst for FOX News to say on national television.
So, I guess in an opinion part of a program, Brit is not allowed to give HIS opinion when asked how he would advise Tiger . . . got it. We know how you believe. People need to give only their opinion as long as it has nothing to do with their personal beliefs. So be it.
I will continue to admire Brit for his courage and his clear advice and message.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:23 pm | #84
Huey,
You are wasting your breath. As you already stated, “true believers” cannot be reasoned with. And what you got here on this blog is a strong case of true believing.
Myself, I prefer to live by two rules, both elicited by great men.
The first: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
The second: What we think, we become.
The first was uttered by Christ (before him, by the Greeks, Egyptians and Confucious). The second by Buddha.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:27 pm | #85
Pat the First:
He gave his opinion. Of course, he’s allowed to give his opinion.
I found his opinion to be ignorant, arrogant and inappropriate to be expressed by that person in that venue.
That’s MY opinion.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:28 pm | #86
To Pat the First:
Yes, non-Christians tell Christians their beliefs are wrong, and vice-versa, and both sides have their own internal divisions that tell their fellow Christians and non-Christians that *their* beliefs are wrong.
Its a feature of the system, not a bug. Lets all get used to it, accept its going to happen, and that no-one has a monopoly on ‘the truth’.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:29 pm | #87
[...] } The Acts of St. Hume, Televangelist, I find headache inducing, but this huffy response (via Benen) from Jim “Gateway Pundit” Hoft is pretty funny: According to democrats and [...]
January 4th, 2010 | 1:29 pm | #88
Gridlock, Jesus said more than that. He also said that the number one rule was to love God with all your heart, soul and mind. He also said that no one comes to the Father God except through Him. I guess you can call Him ignorant and bigoted if you wish.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:30 pm | #89
Huey – it was Hume’s own message to Tiger; he wasn’t speaking for anyone else, so that’s on him. Hume just believes Christianity offers the forgiveness Tiger might need. Personally, I wouldn’t have made those comments myself on national television; I believe there is a time and place for everything and perhaps a personal message sent to Tiger by Hume would have been more appropriate. I still do not think that atheists have any more right to promote their religion under the guise of it not being a religion than anyone else – Hume was just not making any bones about how he feels – and I admire him for that at least.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:31 pm | #90
The second: What we think, we become.
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You Godless people are in trouble.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:33 pm | #91
Its a feature of the system, not a bug. Lets all get used to it, accept its going to happen, and that no-one has a monopoly on ‘the truth’.
Actually, Christians believe that Christ is “the Truth”. And if there is one thing I know, the continual bashing of Christianity is only going to get worse. It was predicted. Just a little earlier than I thought it would happen.
And Huey, it is only an ignorant opinion because you believe Christians are ignorant. We got it. You aren’t the first. You aren’t the last. Just get in line. It starts at the WH and runs right through Congress.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:37 pm | #92
That’s MY opinion.
Hume is paid for giving his opinion. Which means that quite a lot of people are interested in hearing it.
Are you paid for yours?
January 4th, 2010 | 1:37 pm | #93
And if someone had asked MY opinion or wanted to know how I would advise someone in Tiger’s position, I would have left religion and statements revealing religious superiority complexes out of it entirely, and said simply this: Tiger, STOP screwing around if you want to be married!
See, no religion needed there…just a little common sense is all.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:38 pm | #94
FYI – I will defend Christ and His followers unabashedly.
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. Romans 12:16 (NIV)
January 4th, 2010 | 1:43 pm | #95
Heidi, if people would all use common sense in ALL of their dealings there would be no sin. The problem is they don’t. Using common sense would alleviate all of our problems. Using common sense would not have gotten B.O. elected.
Life has never been as simple as you wish it was.
I assume that you don’t think that Tiger is not living in a very dark place right now and that he is not seeking any help wherever he can get it. You can bet that the Christians on the golf tour who he calls friends are giving Tiger the same advice as Brit.
It is too bad that Payne Stewart is no longer living. He certainly would give Tiger some very good advice.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:45 pm | #96
“Actually, Christians believe that Christ is “the Truth”. And if there is one thing I know, the continual bashing of Christianity is only going to get worse. It was predicted. Just a little earlier than I thought it would happen.”
Okay, this type of statement cracks me up, because EVERY religious follower believes that his or her religion is “the Truth.” Also, why is it “bashing of Christianity” to call someone out for the “bashing” of Buddhism? That’s the irony of all of this: Christianity has been the dominant religion in this country, and now, when other beliefs demand acknowledgment in the public square, or when non-believers ask for respect for their point of view, so-called Christians get a persecution complex. Guess what guys? Not everyone believes what you do, and yet we all have a right to religious liberty in this country…too bad we didn’t all recognize a responsibility for respectful dialogue about our different beliefs.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:45 pm | #97
Revision:
I assume that you think that Tiger is not living in a very dark place right now and that he is not seeking any help wherever he can get it.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:51 pm | #98
Okay, this type of statement cracks me up, because EVERY religious follower believes that his or her religion is “the Truth.”
Heidi, Christ in His own words . . .
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 (NIV)
Christians believe the tenents of Christianity is the “truth” because they believe in Christ. He said He is the “truth”. Go ahead and call Him ignorant and bigoted. He has been called worse.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:53 pm | #99
“I assume that you don’t think that Tiger is not living in a very dark place right now and that he is not seeking any help wherever he can get it.”
I would not presume to know Tiger’s emotional/psychological state right now. It may be that he feels awful about his choices. It may be that he is relieved to have been caught. It may be that he is seeking forgiveness. It may be that he is defensive of his choices. Who knows?
But Christianity is not the only refuge for lost souls my friend. And to assert that it is only shuts down the opportunity for dialogue and shared understanding or common ground with people who hold different religious beliefs. The point that I am trying to make is that Mr. Hume could have offered his personal opinion that Christianity has been redemptive for him and others without the need to disparage Buddhism. Since I was raised Christian, I know that exclusivity is part of the belief system, but I am telling you that you only turn people off to Christianity (and to Christians) when you act like you are the only ones with the keys to spiritual truth.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:55 pm | #100
Pat the First: I called no one ignorant or bigoted.
Ladue Pundit:
love God with all your heart, soul and mind
Think love, become love.
January 4th, 2010 | 1:57 pm | #101
You incredible victims. NOBODY said Brit Hume couldn’t talk about Christianity. What was SAID was that it is the absolute height of arrogance to presume that Christianity will ‘heal’ you and that another religion is somehow LACKING. The Christmas thing? It’s YOU GUYS constantly bringing it up. No liberals truly CARE what you call it. Because you know JESUS blessed ALL people. I guess you’ve forgotten that. Christianity is NOT a political party, it’s a religion and reading this post just reminds me that MY God is not the same as yours.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:02 pm | #102
Heidi, I don’t worry about turning people off because I live my life according to the calling of Christ on my life. And sorry, but one of the main tenents of Christianity is that they do believe the only way to eternal life is through Christ. If you think we will change our mind about that one, you are really, really wrong. It isn’t going to happen.
Just like you think it is your place to put down us who believe in Christ, we believe we must stand for what we believe.
Please do continue to think I am ignorant. I don’t care. Just don’t blaspheme God. I will fight for what He means to me and those who love Him. I will defend Brit for saying what he believes. Not many people have that kind of courage.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:04 pm | #103
Oh, goodie . . . now we are victims. It is just getting better.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:06 pm | #104
Trust me, I know what Jesus said (or at least what men translated about what other men wrote about what other people said about what Jesus said). I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian church and probably know my Bible better than many practicing Christians. Nevertheless, and without getting into a theological debate over the meaning of those words attributed to Christ, I will simply say that you will not gain followers by insisting that you are right and all others are wrong. If you are to find followers at all, you will do so by your actions and by how you live your life. Insulting other religious viewpoints will never cause the result you seek.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:15 pm | #105
“And sorry, but one of the main tenents of Christianity is that they do believe the only way to eternal life is through Christ. If you think we will change our mind about that one, you are really, really wrong. It isn’t going to happen.”
But Pat, this is where it gets really funny–no one is trying to change your mind about what you believe! Only Christians do that…
“Just like you think it is your place to put down us who believe in Christ, we believe we must stand for what we believe.
Please do continue to think I am ignorant. I don’t care. Just don’t blaspheme God. I will fight for what He means to me and those who love Him. I will defend Brit for saying what he believes. Not many people have that kind of courage.”
Please quote any of my words that put down Christians for their beliefs, that accuse you of being ignorant, or that “blaspheme God.”
That’s the problem with many conservative Christians today: you think that we’re all at war just because we don’t subscribe to your belief system. You feel the need to “defend” your faith by shoving it down the throats of the rest of us and then crying about persecution when we don’t all agree with you.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:18 pm | #106
Heidi, I don’t think standing up for what you believe is insulting anyone. Let’s just say I will never agree with you. You obviously believe that you know much more than me. I guess my decades of Bible study mean nothing. So be it.
However, no matter what you think, God will still be God. We are still just His creation. His Will will be done.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:22 pm | #107
“And if someone had asked MY opinion or wanted to know how I would advise someone in Tiger’s position, I would have left religion and statements revealing religious superiority complexes out of it entirely, and said simply this: Tiger, STOP screwing around if you want to be married!
See, no religion needed there…just a little common sense is all.” by Heidi
Why do you think your advice is common sense? What exactly is common sense based on anyhow? It is all one’s perception on what is common sense or not. Why shouldn’t Woods believe that he is able to sleep around and be married? It is obvious he did. Just look at the number of people who cheat in a marriage, and knowingly, continue to remain married. I’m thinking he possibly presumed he could sleep around and still remain married even if his wife found out. It is obvious to me that if my husband cheats, I have every right to leave him, but it isn’t based on common sense, it is based on my beliefs on what marriage means to me and how a couple should conduct themselves within a marriage…or why be married. Precluding religion from common sense is like precluding intercourse from sex.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:27 pm | #108
I’m a Christian, but I’m respectful enough of other people who believe differently than me to keep my religion to myself. In return, most people I interact with offer this same respect to me, and we all get along better because of it. Religion is and should be a strictly personal thing, and it throws a wrench into the process when some know-it-all starts insisting that his beliefs are the only real truth. I would never claim that my beliefs should or would work for everyone; I know only that they work for me. It is absolutely arrogant for Brit Hume to talk down to Tiger Woods in the way he did. For Tiger, Buddhism is his truth, and Brit should respect that. On behalf of my fellow believers, I apologize to all nonbelievers for the actions of a few arrogant, careless types like Brit Hume, and ask that you don’t think poorly of us because of a few disrespectful spoilers.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:33 pm | #109
Your complaints have been refuted at http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_01/021748.php.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:34 pm | #110
Jeff, how do you reconcile Christ’s commandment to be “salt and light” to the world? Or how about not putting your “light under a bushel”? If Christ believed in “live and let live” philosophy, He wouldn’t have come to die for you and me. It wouldn’t have been worth it. His death and resurrection drew a line in the sand. No sitting on fences. No grays, only blacks and whites.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:36 pm | #111
[...] Pundit seems to support Hume’s remarks, sees the criticism as impending persecution: It used to be that liberals didn’t want you to mention Christ in schools. Then they banned [...]
January 4th, 2010 | 2:44 pm | #112
Pat The First: we all have our own way of interpreting the teachings in the Bible. I personally believe that Jesus’s ultimate goal was to bring contentment, love, and peace between man, not to encourage His followers to go around insisting that everybody think exactly like they do. If Buddhism, or Islam, or Hinduism, or whatever else satisfies and brings inner peace to someone, I don’t believe Jesus would hold that against them or expect Christians to try and convert them away from something that they’ve found to work. We’re all different.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:44 pm | #113
Brit “my dead gay son” Hume said something?
January 4th, 2010 | 2:45 pm | #114
@ Joanne: while morality may be found in many religions, religion is not necessary for morality. Jesus said to “do unto others as you would have done to you.” Well, guess what? He wasn’t the only one who said it! So did Aristotle, Buddha, and many, many others who both preceded Jesus AND came after him. You don’t need religion to know that because it doesn’t feel good when someone harms you, you shouldn’t harm others. Simple logic is all.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:46 pm | #115
Heidi – Christians are being persecuted in predominately Christian countries and most certainly in non-Christian countries, often in the form of killings. I think it is those of other religions, atheism and Islam for the majority, that are shoving their belief systems down the throats of others. Tell me how is it that evolution, a mere theory, is taught in the schools, but not anything else pertaining to Christianity is allowed in the schools. Who is actually forcing their beliefs on the populace? Atheism is a minority in the U.S., but it is controlling and trying to control the conduct of all people in the U.S.
Christians feel the need to defend their religion, because it is under attack.
Who is going to respect a Christian who states that they believe their religion may not be the truth because there are many religions and they all have the right to be the truth? People should realize simply that whatever people believe in, they all believe that what they believe in is the truth….but it should also be realized, that there is only one truth. A belief in Christ saves lives; it doesn’t take lives or reduce lives to the level of being of no consequence to anything or anyone.
January 4th, 2010 | 2:55 pm | #116
Jeff, if you want to know God and His Son, Christ, I would suggest you read your Bible, or please do not refer to yourself as a Christian. You are lukewarm, and God spits you out, because He does not know you.
You do not have to be a preacher or a teacher, a gift may be in another form, but to suggest that God would not have a problem with people following other religions, idols, then you don’t know God. He is a jealous God – learn your Commandments.
January 4th, 2010 | 3:04 pm | #117
Joanne,
I am against ALL forms of real religious persecution, regardless of the religion practiced. While Christians face persecution in countries where religious liberty is non-existent, so do other persons of other faiths. But here, in America, Christians are not being persecuted for what they believe and there is no attack on Christianity.
Evolution is allowed to be taught in schools because it is a scientific theory (which is a different thing that just a “mere theory”) that can be tested, observed, and for which evidence exists. Faith is about belief in the absence of evidence. If you want to teach your children about faith and about Christianity, please, by all means, FEEL FREE! But to insist that ALL children learn about Christianity in public schools is ridiculous and would deprive those who believe otherwise of religious liberty.
Atheists are not trying to control people or the conduct of people in this country. Whatever religion you choose, please, feel free to practice it in your home, your place of worship, and all other private places that it is welcomed. But in the areas we all share (public schools, government property, etc.), please try to respect those who believe differently than you. There is no war on Christianity–just a request that Christians stop using Christianity to tell the rest of us how to believe and act.
January 4th, 2010 | 3:10 pm | #118
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Clinton, in Letter, Asks His Church for Forgiveness
”I don’t think there is a fancy way to say that I have sinned,”
just sayin’
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January 4th, 2010 | 3:10 pm | #119
Heidi – with all your biblical instruction, I would have presumed you would know that no man preceded Jesus Christ.
January 4th, 2010 | 3:32 pm | #120
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“I am confident that we can CREATE A KINGDOM right here on EARTH”
(the revealing video, along with numerous others,
was also sucked up by Obama’s black hole machine)
“MY INDIVIDUAL SALVATION is not gonna come about
without a COLLECTIVE SALVATION for the COUNTRY”
~ B Hussein O
Obama, like Clinton before him, has every
intention on wedding church/mosque & state..
oh there’s so much more, like his stating policy should be in sync
with religious doctrine, guess he means the IslaMarxist religion..
UCC member Sen. Barack Obama discusses faith and politics
[Later -- during his interview with United Church News -- Obama continued his thoughts about religion and politics; specifically, the role of religious principles in reaching a balance between national security and social justice concerns.
"I believe that democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal values," Obama said. "Social justice and national security are both universal values, values that may originate for some in their religious beliefs, but are shared by us all."]
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January 4th, 2010 | 3:49 pm | #121
I suppose it hasn’t occurred to the lefties that multiple cheating on your spouse is not considered good form for observant Buddhists.
The reason I suspect some people convert to Buddhism is due to the impression that it makes no significant demands on you. Christianity (and Islam, for that matter) do make demands–and lefties can’t stand that, can they?
January 4th, 2010 | 3:50 pm | #122
Heidi I’ve been reading your comments and I’m wondering where and what you base your beliefs in.
MORALITY and RELIGION go hand in hand. When religion is weak in a nation so are its morals. When religion (Christianity) is strong in a nation like it was in America in the 19th century it produces a moral people.
Unlike you the founding fathers believed Christianity should be practiced in public places, not just in our homes and places of worship.
I would like to know your sources?
January 4th, 2010 | 3:51 pm | #123
Heidi – I do not know even where to begin, because it is evident that you are not seeing or are refusing to see what is happening in the world around you.
“But here, in America, Christians are not being persecuted for what they believe and there is no attack on Christianity.” by Heidi
Wow, Heidi, you must be kidding me.
“Whatever religion you choose, please, feel free to practice it in your home, your place of worship, and all other private places that it is welcomed.” by Heidi
But what, keep it to yourself? Is that not persecution in of itself? People have the freedom of speech, which includes the right to spread the Word of God, just like it is every other religion’s right to do the same. Atheists do not seem to have any problem forcing their beliefs into governments, schools, and anywhere else these can infiltrate and influence change in their favour, while forcing the beliefs of others out.
“Faith is about belief in the absence of evidence.” by Heidi
Evolution is a theory, the scientific title is disputable. The word faith comes with many definitions, but I just have to look at the earth and the heavens to see the result of God’s work. Doesn’t an atheist look at the same and claim the creation for their own religion? The teachings of evolution is in direct opposition to the teachings of Christianity, but it is taught under the guise of it being a ‘scientific’ theory. How ludicrous! There is no evidence that evolution exists. There is not one living thing on earth in transition, and all things that have mutated have ALWAYS mutated for the worse, not for the betterment or advancement of a living thing. Christianity is based on the laws of God, the creator of all that exists; humans refer to it as science, but its originator is God. If all things were to be treated equally, evolution should never be taught in schools, and it isn’t taught as a theory, but as a truth. How many times have I heard people state evolution is a scientific theory, but then claim evidence exists. If evidence exists, then it wouldn’t be a theory, but a fact. And now people actually have gone the step further, and claim it as fact. Evolution is but a theory, and allowing it to be promoted and taught in schools is for the sole purpose of promoting the religion of atheism and teaching the masses from a young age that God does not exist.